Cop handcuffs 8 year-old with disability order

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  1. BringDownMugabe

    BringDownMugabe Well-Known Member

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    [video=youtube;89yo1Pvp5_M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yo1Pvp5_M[/video]

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    Nope, no excessive police authority being used here. Trying to discipline this child is absurd -- that's the parents roll. I'm glad they're suing.
     
  2. EMTdaniel86

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    Wow, that is a little ridiculous. Ok now with that said a few things here. If you are disruptive in school, they can have you arrest. Here in Arizona it is called “Interference with or disruption of an educational institution ARS 13-2911”. Every state has something on the books similar or along those lines. It could be used for someone who had ADHD or it could be used for bullying, which is what it was originally intended for. Now this is going to sound like an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) thing to say, but just because he has ADHD and PTSD(which I didn’t see why he has that) doesn’t excuses his behavior.
     
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    AdHD is a disability? Lol...
     
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    Where do I pick up my disability check?
     
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    the only thing thats going to happen here, after reading not just this information but other information... this cop will not be fired, he will however receive a disciplinary notice in his folder, ironic he's there to discipline someone elses child out of control and now he gets one hey... basically what went on is the school was unable to control the child, in this instance the parents are called, if they are unable to make it there within a few minutes, the police are called who do arrive within a few minutes... like others have said there are laws on the books about this in every state, they vary but all have something like it...

    now why is the cop in trouble? because of WHERE he handcuffed the child... its not because he did handcuff a child... its because of how he did it with the biceps violating policy of the department... restraints have a VERY specific role and MUST be used as intended, there is no improvising allowed except in life threatening situations... and this is also on the books in every state, more specifically federally blanketing all the states and territories... because the officer or another was not in a life threatening situation he MUST comply with the correct use of restraint devices... this is why many cops carry multiple cuffs or keep a smaller set in their vehicles now, because this has been done to women and children with thin wrists in the past and resulted in injury, hence why kid cuffs are kept in cars usually...

    simply having a disability does not negate someone from being restrained, ask any mental hospital the extreme lengths they go to in restraining someone out of control... this was mild compared to what they do... so yes people are right the department will be sued... but not for the reasons they are stating... it has nothing to do with any disability, it has nothing to do with this being a child, its purely because of how he administered the restraints against policy... I'm guessing this will be tens of thousands of dollars in an out of court settlement (essentially the cost it would have cost to argue this in court), this will NEVER be millions or a lot of money... since the child said it hurts while he arms were cuffed behind his back, thats the clincher to demonstrating this policy violation injured him...

    ta-da folks... thats the reality... the cop won't be fired, they won't get millions... calm down...
     
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    Teachers aren't allowed to do much physically with children, but sometimes kids need physical restraints, etc. It's a bad situation for all, since the police officers are really not trained for that.
     
  7. BringDownMugabe

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    Why should a police officer be trained to handcuff a 'disobedient' child in the first place?
     
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    Aw crap! All this accomplishes is making these kids terrified of all police officers. There has to be a better way to handle this problem.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It looks to me like he inflicted pain on a small child as a form of punishment. If someone were to do that to my child, they'd need to sleep with one eye open because I'd be coming for their ass with a swiftness.
     
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    You're right.......
    They should handcuff the parents of a "'disobedient' child".
    School, last I heard, is for learning first. "'Disobedient' children" need to be removed from this environment since they only hamper learning!
     
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    Sorry, Dan, usually agree w/you, but can't here....

    ADHD is a mental issue - it's a very real thing and the kid can't help it. PTSD can happen to anyone, not just soldiers in combat. A child going thru a horrifying experience can end up w/PTSD.....
     
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    The "source", which apparently the OP is ashamed to own up to, is Mother Jones. (I would be, too.)

    Now you know.
     
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    Yes, it is, Oldy. It's Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder and that's why they need psychiatric treatment. Their brains aren't wired normally. Have you ever seen a kid w/this problem? They're bouncing off the walls, they can't concentrate, focus.......

    I had a neighbor who's son was born w/this and it's not a picnic for the kid or parents. These kids have to be medicated and sometimes the meds turns them into zombies. That's why there's special classrooms for these kids........ and being handcuffed sure isn't the humane way of handling a kid like this.
     
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    I'm wondering if the cop lost perspective. Working in a school all the time it may be easy to forget that these incidents, in the greater scheme of things, are quite trivial. They might seem a big deal in the goldfish bowl of school but take the event from school to the street and it looks pretty petty.
     
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    If the cop can't get the kid under control that's a reasonable solution. A lot better than using the tazer
     
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    There is ADHD and then there is the ADHDA that seems to be all the rave to explain normal childhood behavior. ADHD has been way over diagnosed to the point where actual ADHD cases have become marginalized. My 55 year old sister, who was a straight A student and has a very good job and is also good at her job was diagnosed with ADHD....at the age of 50. Other than a bit of gullibility, she is normal.
     
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    where is the video showing what the child was doing before this?
     
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    What you said is fine and great. I would disagree with you. However, is ADHD or PTSD an excuses for a child to not behavior in the classroom? I have Aspergers, doesn't give me an excuse to not follow the law.
     
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    Personally I think its ridiculous and a bogus creation.
     
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    I am ok with the police handcuffing an out of control child for the child's and their safety, I think the issue is where he put the handcuffs

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    It's yet another of those made-up 'disorders' to allow children whose parents let them run wild in any setting get away with being spoiled and obnoxious whenever they can't get their own way. Having that poor parenting labeled a 'disorder' allows for pumping drugs into the kiddies instead of having to instill some semblance of self-control and discipline in brats.

    I saw the full vid of this particular incident, and saw nothing wrong with the officer's actions, but then I'm not somebody looking for a big payday off of the school system and the police, and I never do business with the kind of 'lawyers' who trample each other to rush in and rake off some bucks over literally anything; bottom feeding vermin, actually. Severe limits need to be imposed on contingency fees; it's not like there aren't far more lawyers than would needed in a country 10 times the size of ours now.
     
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    I think it depend if they are getting violent or look like they are going to hurt themselves, at that point they have to be restrained if they can not be calmed
     
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    it's a real disorder imo, but I do think many you describe get labeled under it too which makes some look down on those with the disorder

    I have seen families where only one kid has this problem.... so it's not parenting.... they are born with brains that are not normal.... sadly

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    Do they not make straight jackets that small?
     
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    ADHD is a real disorder, I just get very unfocused, and can get very hyperactive at points without my medicine. Just so you know that this type of disorder along with PTSD can make itself look like he's bi polar.....
     

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