Could Putin Quit?

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    Americans, could you say, Aleksander Ulyanov is native American speaker or not? He took nick of the terrorist. He writes name Alexander with an error. If he keeps in mind AleksanDR Ulyanov, then he writes incorrectly too. He writes about Putin's fortune but he doesn't write where Putin keeps his money. What a company is so happy to be a Putin favorite? I suppose Aleksander Ulyanov is a troll from Ukraine... Usually they live there.
     
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    No any doubts you are a Russian troll. No. You are the personal troll of Putin!
     
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    You are not right. I am interested in. And not me only!. But as you know, a large number of evidences decreases their price. So deficit of evidences on the West is reasonably.
     
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    Where did you get that information? Did you live in Russia and you made deals with Russian police? How much are they? I'd like to buy a couple of policemen. Though I live in Russia I don't know their price yet. Help me please!
     
  5. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If food and necessities can't be delivered to an area, and people begin dying, it would raise awareness of how harmful it is to be completely dependent on goods from outside an area. I think a lot of people are beginning to realize it, and are striving for more self sufficiency, but it shouldn't be an individual matter, it should be something that concerns each town and county or province.

    A large government represents a large amount of people, and the more people there are, the less say each individual has in the government and its laws. If for instance certain groups have certain standards and beliefs, they would be stifled by a government which represents the majority...(that is if it is a democracy and not an oligarchy where people have no say at all), so that their rights are ignored and trampled on. But no one's rights should be trampled on, unless they are harmful to others outside of their community. If it's harmful to people in the community, then they can always leave and go elsewhere.

    This is why I believe in as small a government as possible, and that's why our constitution put the rights of the states above the federal government in Washington. Unfortunately, little by little Washington has gained more power, and its now controlled by special interests so we have become an oligarchy.
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Disasters don't usually involve a place being cut off from the outside world for more than a very short time, and even it it does, doesn't that just emphasize even more how dependent they are on being connected?

    Are you thinking of big government or big populations? You seem to be conflating the two. Big populations can be run by tiny governments and vice versa, what is needed is my favorite Obama quote.. "not big government or small government but GOOD government" and that involves one best matched to the type of activity being governed regardless of ideology.
     
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    I would be shocked if Putin quit, and almost as shocked if Putin lost the coming election.

    Past is prologue.
     
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    I don't think a government over a small population can be considered a big government, that is if it is a democracy. I'm thinking of a large population with a big government, where the voice and rights of individuals is limited.
     
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    Putin COULD quit with billions of dollars he has pilfered...but he wont. Unlike Trump he is ideological above greed and desires power above all else. He will instead consolidate his power and continue his quest for a rebuilt U.S.S.R. with no regard for cost in lives or reputation.
     
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    Fools think that Putin wants to rule for all life.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Either one really. I am intrigued by and grudgingly admire Putin, and I honestly like and admire Gorbechev. Neither one would see a bill from my establishment, though I extend that courtesy to any living Head of State.
     
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    You don't think Trump wants power too? I agree it's more about money with him as I think he wants to be the first trillionaire, but he realizes that he must have power to acquire that much money
     
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    Yeah right, say something often enough and it will be believed. Putin has only what he declared, and the Russian people know it. Searching for that non existent fortune was nothing more than an exercise in futility for Washington ...but then again, they can only judge others from their own character.
     
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    lol you mean their timing is brilliant :D
     
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    It's in the VICE video Zoom posted, just watch it... or do you need permission for that?
     
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    Actually Trump lost quite a bit of money by becoming president. He couldn't continue the deals he had pending with other nations... neither could his children.
     
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    He doesn't, but he fears what might happen if he leaves. Will Russia ever be ready to carry on his legacy without him? Who knows? They say he's another Saint Alexander Nevsky. Can you just see it now, Saint Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin.

    Here he is at Mount Athos, where the monks gave him the throne of the Holy Roman Emperor ...and it freaked out the Greek president. Too bad! He's a Christian, you're not.

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    I remember this event, but I do not know what it means. Is there some kind of global meaning, or it's just another ceremony? What do you think?
     
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    Vladimir Putin is highly devout, and did have a spiritual father, (confessor), in Mount Athos until it caused problems with the EU. From what I gathered over the years, is that there is some kind of religious significance to the Roman Empire and it's probably why Moscow considers itself the third Rome since the first Rome is out of communion with the Orthodox, and the second Rome which is Constantinople fell to the Turks.

    From what I read in Catholic writings mostly, is that the Antichrist who will be the culmination of all evil, will be held back by the Holy Roman Empire. This might be a reference to the Church, which to the Russians and Greeks would be the Orthodox Church.. Anyway this is what I concluded after picking up bits and pieces from different writings.

    What I do know for a certainty is that the Byzantine's were highly offended when the Pope referred to them as Greeks, and even today the Greeks call themselves Romans... as do the Turks, Arabs, Italians and others. As for the Greek politicians, they're atheists.


    Anyway if there is anyone that deserves the prestige of being the new Roman Emperor, it would be Vladimir Putin. Twenty seven thousand churches have opened in Russia in the past 27 years. That's one thousand a year.
     
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    Could you give us some examples? I want to be sure of what we are discussing here.
     
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    As an aside, I have a Ukrainian friend who maintains very strongly that Alexander Nevsky was Lithuanian, is he correct? The Internet is, as always, ambiguous, though with strong leaning to Nevsky's not being Lithuanian and I ask you as someone who seems to have some knowledge of the historical prejudices of the area as well as just the history.
     
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    I looked up Alexander Nevsky and he fought off the Teutonic Knights. If Nevsky was Lithuanian and therefore Roman Catholic, would he have fought the Teutonic Knights who were Catholic? It doesn't sound right, although he might have been born in Lithuania.
     
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    One of the sources I found says that the Lithuanians were pagans at the time but it also does say that Nevsky was fighting them. I dunno, we call this guy I was discussing this with the "mad Russian" though he's never been within a thousand miles of there and just likes to bring in tales his mother told. Nice guy really.
     
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    What? Just because I want evidence? What a moron you are.
     
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