Could somebody address this issue with 'the wall'?

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  1. AFM

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    Their answers are translated. On the Mexican side of the border they admit that they come for economic reasons and free stuff.
     
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    It would have been instructive for you to look it up but regardless:

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/industr...176000-jobs-says-key-independent-review-panel
     
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    The progressive liberal elites certainly do. Why can they use fences to prevent unwanted intrusion on their property whilst those US citizens living on the border some of whom have been killed by illegal aliens cannot rely on their government to protect them by constructing a wall to keep illegals out of the country ??
     
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    The wall will only be built where it makes sense. This has been said by government and conservative/moderate news. While Trump is not usually detailed about his plans and promises I believe Trump has stated this a few times. Areas without a wall will require more patrols obviously but by having a wall in other areas we will have more people to patrol these areas where we cannot place walls.

    I am sure several agencies will be involved in determining the need and feasibility of specific areas. I doubt the president will have involvement in that. The presidents role is to give the directive and resources to these agencies so that they can do their job.
     
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    For thousands of years various nationalities put up fences or walls to keep people out, or in. Generally they worked. Apparently in the last five years there has been some kind of magical development so that they no longer work. I have been trying to find the nature of this magical development for the past year. No one, left or right, has been able to identify this magical development, but the left insists that fences are no longer effective.
     
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    It works better than an imaginary line on the ground.
     
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    I believe that Nancy Pelosi discovered this fact.
     
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    They are also being built in Europe, the bastion of progressive thought.
     
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    no one has issues with walls being built where needed, Obama built some, Trump will build some... no one has issues with that

    but we will never have a great wall of Trump across our southern border
     
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    dems are taking notes, if republicans allow Trump to steal money from the military after being denied funding by congress, then they can as well when they are in power as the precedent will have been set
     
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    You mean no one has issues with building ineffective walls?
     
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    Trump said that and that Mexico would pay for it, but I think we all know he will not accomplish that and like Obama he will just add some addl wall where needed - any more than that, and he will get push back, especially the locations that require stealing Americans land to build it
     
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    I said no one has issue with "walls being built where needed" - building them where they would be ineffective of course people have issue with
     
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    The people are taking notes that the Democratic Party puts the welfare of non US citizens above the welfare of US citizens. Why do you think Trump was elected ???
     
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    Schumer said there not enough votes for a wall in the senate. Pelosi said she would give one dollar for a wall.

    There is no way that anyone, Trump or anyone else, is just suddenly going to build a wall across our entire southern border. The dems don't want to fund any part of a wall.
     
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    Are you afraid of crediting another president with a more effective wall than your precious obama?
     
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    The problem is that the D’s believe that a border wall is not needed anywhere.
     
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    Democrats have to defend not building a wall in 2020.
     
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    most American voters did not vote for Trump, Trump won with fewer votes than his opponent and will be voted out in 2020
     
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    we will defend not building a wall across the entire southern border, republicans will have to defend stealing money from the military and stealing Americans land to do so
     
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    The purpose of the military iwas to defend and ensure the security of the USA and its citizens. Protecting our border is an important part of that.
     
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    Trump got money for a wall in the budget and he had budget left over from the previous year.... he did not need to steal money from the military

    but if you think it's ok for republican to steal money from the military, then sure you will feel the same when dems do it after being refused by Congress
     
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    not sure what you're saying, are you saying our existing walls built by Obama are not effective?
     
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    that is far right fake news, we support walls where needed, we do not support a wall across the entire border like Trump wants
     
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    yep, then the right can't whine when the left steals from the military for their pet projects
     

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