Court clears Planned Parenthood, indicts its accusers

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  1. cupAsoup

    cupAsoup Well-Known Member

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    Women deserve access to affordable healthcare. Your objection to abortion has a simple solution, don't have an abortion. Your superstitions are irrelevant in this issue.
     
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    Hah, you can take your crackpot conspiracy theories and shove em. This is why no one takes cons seriously when they cry "scandal" or "bombshell." You are entitles to your own opinion, but not your own facts.
     
  3. Phyxius

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    He CAN, however, evict the "guest" - even if he knows eviction will result in said guest's death due to the elements - at any time, for any or no reason, without being found to violate said guest's basic human rights.

    See how easily your analogy goes to shiite? :roflol:
     
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    I was eleven. And you don't know (*)(*)(*)(*) about incest survivors.

    http://www.siawso.org/page-5143

     
  5. AmericanNationalist

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    I'm a guy, I don't need or want one. However, as the legal donor of my child to my spouse I have no rights under the present US situation. So not only do I have moral objections to this absurdity, I have legal objections to this absurdity. That and Margret Sanger was a very disgusting human being. All of these factors make me want to legally get rid of Planned Parenthood.
     
  6. Phyxius

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    If the vigilante journalist were stupid enough to illegally solicit such gun buys on camera, and falsified government documents to do so, I would applaud their indictment and conviction.
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    So you're a part of that very rare 4% of cases(Incest, rape, threat to health combine at 4%. Individually, threat to health is highest while incest/rape are obsolete statistically. Unless I buy the whole "Women are hiding it" lie, which then begs the question of why are women hiding it? I don't feel like hearing another excuse though lol.)

    Because the statistics are obsolete, they cannot possibly be stated as a reason for supporting or denouncing policy. A vocal minority cannot dictate law in the US, or anywhere for that matter. In any event, I include rape/incest/threat to the mother as "Medical Abortion". You can have abortion for all of these reasons.

    But can you give me a logical reason for the vast majority of abortions? Abortion, for most of them is basically for economic purposes. I cannot hold that in morality, nor legal justification. If I agreed with that, again I ask: What's the difference from any other person? If the Medical Abortions are so necessary that it's the women's calling card, have at it:

    The other needless and frankly pointless abortions will eventually drown out, leaving Abortion to rightly be at a statistic so irrelevant its ignored.
     
  8. AmericanNationalist

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    It's called a lawsuit. Either by he(if he survives) or his family members and the owner is going to lose quite a hefty sum in damages. So quite to the contrary of "going to (*)(*)(*)(*)te", we just didn't follow through to the natural consequences of punishment. That's because at the moment, there is no "punishment" for abortion, so you don't go to the final step for these fetuses.

    They just get flushed down the toilet like disposal tissues of DNA. Which is what the pro-choice proposition thinks of it.
     
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    In 1998, it was reported that Egypt, Guinea-Bissau, Iran, Iraq, Japan, Republic of Korea, Kuwait, Malawi, Morocco, Nicaragua, Syria, Turkey, and the United Arab Emirates all had laws which required that an abortion first be authorized by the woman's husband.

    Hmmmmm. Very interesting list of countries that agree with your position. What do they all have in common - including Japan? [​IMG]
     
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    Lawsuit on what grounds? There is no liability to the hotel owner for what happens to said "guest" after the eviction. Please cite specific case law that would indicate otherwise.
     
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    Proof?
     
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    this may be an off topic tangent. I am fine with whistleblower statutes protecting the lawful acts of employees or government agents that uncover potentially unlawful activity. But I am not fine with whistleblower statutes that attempt to protect otherwise unlawful acts, like illegal bugging or taping and subsequent releas of private conversations. If the whistleblower has enough evidence to offer probable cause, a warrant can be sought, and signed. If these 'whistleblowers' took it upon themselves to breach privacy statutes without benefit of legal advice, and to forego a warrant, I assume they are knowingly taking a risk of being indicted. Well it may not pay off, but I don't necessarily want it to.

    I like privacy statutes, and I am no happier if amateur 'whistleblowers' ignore them, than if professional law enforcement does.
     
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    You weren't just raped, you had a child pedophile in your house(if I take your story at face value.) Pray tell, why didn't you contact authorities? Especially if your sister was also the victim of abuse. If you didn't bring this up as a matter of abortion, I'd be a lot more sympathetic(I am sympathetic don't get me wrong. But the story doesn't arouse sympathy with regards to my abortion stance. I took that stance for many logical reasons. And I'm sure I can illicit feels with stories of my own, but I'm not here to do that. I'm here to logically debate).

    And I'm sure you've heard it before, but I'll state it: Don't confuse sex for love(but also don't deride it as an expression of love either.) Love is many things: Love is cooking someone's breakfast. Love is remembering their ring on their wedding anniversary. Love is being able to accept you for who you are, despite your tragic past.

    That may mean, one day a responsible man coming into your life, willing and ready to give you sexual love. And when that time comes, don't associate it with the pain of your childhood past. (Or hell, the same if you're a lesbian.) Your girlfriend would also be there, to give you intimacy which I still see as the highest expression of love. Even if some people choose to violate that expression.
     
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    If you were trying for a fallacy, it wasn't working. I do believe in collaboration, and where collaboration isn't possible I believe in a mutual separation.
    There's no reason a woman's priorities, value and essentially her essence should be placed higher than a male's priority(or that of the child, but that's another matter. Let's just stick to this one.)

    Without sharing the responsibility(like it IS shared in mutual intercourse), there can be no relationship. And there can't be moral fairness in the eyes of the law. Lady Liberty would not be(and is not blind) on abortion.
     
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    This is a legal issue. To that extent, the right here hasn't addressed that, but instead, attempting to make this an abortion issue. One should completely ignore their whining. At issue is this; David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt were indicted on a felony charge of tampering with a governmental record. Daleiden was also indicted on a misdemeanor charge of “prohibition of the purchase and sale of human organs,” Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson said in a statement.

    Multiple jurisdictions have investigated PP and found them innocent of any illegal activities. It is my hope that these jurisdictions, also file multiple lawsuits against against Daleiden and Merritt, along with the Center for Medical Progress and BioMax.
     
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    You really are having trouble following along, aren't you.

    And I don't feel like interacting any further with you, "lol."

    Sick (*)(*)(*)(*)s always make me queasy.
     
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    Funny thing is this: that post you don't understand....is perfectly coherent to us rational people.
     
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    Brav(*)(*)(*)(*)ingo!!!!!

    And ((((big Texas hugs))))
     
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    Only the single digit IQ people don't have a flippin' clue as to where this is happening and what political leanings this town has. Try this: G.o.o.g.l.e.
     
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    Part 2:

    Brav(*)(*)(*)(*)ingo!!!!

    And (((big Texas hugs for you too)))
     
  21. AmericanNationalist

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    Why do Liberals have such a huge confirmation bias? First of all, you don't know if her story is true. Secondly, her words aren't any more or less logical(In fact, we know they aren't.) They're just words of ideological agreement. If for once, a Liberal would venture across the pond, they might actually learn something :D.
     
  22. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    The GJ and judge are not left-wingers just because you want them to be. Just another lie pulled out of the ass of the lunatic anti-choice fringe. These heavily doctored tapes were put together by lovely folks with ties to Operation Rescue and another who praised murderer Paul Hill. Deny the reality of this judgement all you want. You are defending murder-apologists.
     
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    Oh come on! Let folks keep asking stupid and outrageous questions!! Thats how I weed out the single digit folks!
     
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    Why do pubs have so many sticks stuck? You don't know her either, correct? I don't ASSume someones lying. Why would you? What does it accomplish or add to ANY conversation/thread? Zilch, that's what.

    What effing pond are you referring to? I live in Texas. Do you know where that is? I can look up a link if you need one.
     
  25. randlepatrickmcmurphy

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    Carly Fiorina needs to apologize for repeating this lie over and over even after if was proved wrong.
     

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