Court Documents Show Trump Campaign Knew Lawyers’ Voting Machine Claims Were Baseless

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  1. Kode

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    Court Documents Prove Trump Campaign Knew Lawyers’ Voting Machine Claims Were Baseless


    Trump Campaign Knew Lawyers’ Voting Machine Claims Were Baseless, Memo Shows

    Days before lawyers allied with Donald Trump gave a news conference promoting election conspiracy theories, his campaign had determined that many of those claims were false, court filings reveal.

    By Alan Feuer
    Sept. 21, 2021, 2:11 p.m. ET
    Two weeks after the 2020 election, a team of lawyers closely allied with Donald J. Trump held a widely watched news conference at the Republican Party’s headquarters in Washington. At the event, they laid out a bizarre conspiracy theory claiming that a voting machine company had worked with an election software firm, the financier George Soros and Venezuela to steal the presidential contest from Mr. Trump.

    But there was a problem for the Trump team, according to court documents released on Monday evening.

    By the time the news conference occurred on Nov. 19, Mr. Trump’s campaign had already prepared an internal memo on many of the outlandish claims about the company, Dominion Voting Systems, and the separate software company, Smartmatic. The memo had determined that those allegations were untrue.

    The court papers, which were initially filed late last week as a motion in a defamation lawsuit brought against the campaign and others by a former Dominion employee, Eric Coomer, contain evidence that officials in the Trump campaign were aware early on that many of the claims against the companies were baseless.

    The documents also suggest that the campaign sat on its findings about Dominion even as Sidney Powell and other lawyers attacked the company in the conservative media and ultimately filed four federal lawsuits accusing it of a vast conspiracy to rig the election against Mr. Trump.

    According to emails contained in the documents, Zach Parkinson, then the campaign’s deputy director of communications, reached out to subordinates on Nov. 13 asking them to “substantiate or debunk” several matters concerning Dominion. The next day, the emails show, Mr. Parkinson received a copy of a memo cobbled together by his staff from what largely appear to be news articles and public fact-checking services.

    Even though the memo was hastily assembled, it rebutted a series of allegations that Ms. Powell and others were making in public. It found:

    • That Dominion did not use voting technology from the software company, Smartmatic, in the 2020 election.
    • That Dominion had no direct ties to Venezuela or to Mr. Soros.
    • And that there was no evidence that Dominion’s leadership had connections to left-wing “antifa” activists, as Ms. Powell and others had claimed.

    As Mr. Coomer’s lawyers wrote in their motion in the defamation suit, “The memo produced by the Trump campaign shows that, at least internally, the Trump campaign found there was no evidence to support the conspiracy theories regarding Dominion” and Mr. Coomer.

    Even at the time, many political observers and voters, Democratic and Republican alike, dismissed the efforts by Ms. Powell and other pro-Trump lawyers like Rudolph W. Giuliani as a wild, last-ditch attempt to appease a defeated president in denial of his loss. But the false theories they spread quickly gained currency in the conservative media and endure nearly a year later.

    It is unclear if Mr. Trump knew about or saw the memo; still, the documents suggest that his campaign’s communications staff remained silent about what it knew of the claims against Dominion at a moment when the allegations were circulating freely.

    “The Trump campaign continued to allow its agents,” the motion says, “to advance debunked conspiracy theories and defame” Mr. Coomer, “apparently without providing them with their own research debunking those theories.”

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    These court documents will eventually be published but for now we can only obtain reports from reporters who were present in the court. This comes none too soon as the reports of the Arizona fraudit run by the ninjas is due to be published Friday. Then we get to learn first all about the bamboo fibers and UV scans and other insane fantasies. But we will learn these fantasies with the backdrop of this revelation that Trumps own campaign documented their own awareness that their story of a stolen election was false, false, false.

    So will this be the end of the charades, or will Trump's loyal band of followers continue to claim the election was stolen?
     
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    We can't just let this thread drift away. It needs a few comments from some trumpers.
     
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    For a bunch of gun freaks they sure seem allergic to smoke.
     
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    They know that "The Big Lie" was not meant to perpetuate a Coup against Biden. They knew it was only meant to make money off of the donations from the gullible. Of which they would get a big chunk. So reality had no bearing on anything. Maybe Trump might have actually believed that the coup might succeed. He certainly has the lack of brains to believe it. But certainly not his attorneys or anybody in the Trump campaign. They were in it for the money
     
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    This will certainly make Cyber Ninja's presentation of results on Friday all the more entertaining!
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They need to wait and see how Tucker Carlson or Sean Hannity spin it into some sort of talking point they can repeat without having to make too much of an effort.
     
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    Its only by going after the law licenses of these attorneys, their revenue source, through the state bar associations and using civil courts against the campaign chairs and spokespersons, that you can contain this corrosive misuse of process. Because the politicians will love this new tactic in all general elections. It pays off campaign debt, unifies the party base, and nullifies any 'honeymoon period'

    Now that I think about it, who's to say it's only a general election tactic? Why can't this spread to intra party wars during primary season, with the recounts, the lawsuits, the conspiracies, the attacks on voting system at the local level ? That tears at the fabric of the two major parties , especially if we can't tell who's really the party nominee running in the General until late October! Now might just make legislatures do something to fix this giant campaign finance loophole!.
     
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    Documents show that democrats knew the Russia hoax was a hoax yet still pushed it on Trump.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/russiagate-critics-react-sussmann-indictment-bunk


    Why in the heck would you think trump would play fair when democrats tried to have him locked up on a lie? I don’t care what trump did or didn’t do after all that mess.

    also you will not find one post I have made that shows I ever thought there was voter fraud to the extent of changing an election. I never bought that hype but every democrat I have spoken to bought the Russia lie
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know what "Russia lie" you're talking about. Though it looks like you were simply trying to change the subject. But I don't think that most Trump supporters believed the Big Lie. Only the dumbest would believe that voter fraud could flip an election. But that didn't keep most of them from promoting it. Like hinting that there had been "irregularities" where there weren't. Those are equally responsible for perpetuating the Big Lie. I don't know if you personally were one of them or not, but those who did do that know who they are.
     
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    It wasn't a hoax at all, it was an investigation based upon probable cause that didn't find good enough evidence for prosecution. It's clear that Russia and Trump both wanted Trump elected, but worked independently. That said, the Trump campaign did TRY to collude.

    Why the Infamous Trump Tower Meeting Didn't Take Down Trump | Fortune

    "When news first broke in July 2017 about the now-famous Trump Tower meeting, it looked like just the caught-in-the-act moment critics thought could ensnare Donald Trump.

    The 20-minute gathering in Manhattan seemed to have everything: Donald Trump Jr. meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer. The supposed promise of dirt on Hillary Clinton. The president personally dictating parts of a statement that smacked of cover-up.

    ...

    The meeting, Mueller concluded, ultimately didn’t amount to illegal collusion because the Trump campaign officials weren’t well-versed in the law and the information that was promised by the Kremlin-linked lawyer didn’t pan out."
     
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