Court finds Obama appointees interfered with New Black Panther prosecution

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  1. BestViewedWithCable

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    The link is under Obamas birth certificate......
     
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    Still waiting for Mac to read the opinion and get back to us. But that hasn't stopped him from posting the continuing rightwing talking points on this.

    Conservatives, totally devoid of facts.
     
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    [h=1]Political Appointee Involved in Obama Justice Department Decision to Drop Black Panther Case According to Documents[/h]

    Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that it has forced disclosure of the existence of documents from the Department of Justice (DOJ) indicating Democratic election lawyer Sam Hirsch was involved in the DOJ decision to dismiss its voting rights case against the New Black Panther Party for Self Defense. The records, described in a Vaughn index produced pursuant to a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit, contradict sworn testimony by Thomas Perez, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division, who testified before the U.S. Civil Rights Commission that no political leadership was involved in the decision (Judicial Watch v. Department of Justice (No. 10-851)).

    The “Vaughn index” describes documents responsive to the lawsuit currently being withheld in their entirety by the Justice Department. The index details a series of emails between Assistant Deputy Attorney General Steve Rosenbaum and Deputy Associate Attorney General Sam Hirsch, who was described by Slate magazine as a “DC election lawyer who represents a lot of Democrats” prior to joining the Justice Department.
    The index describes eight email exchanges between Rosenbaum and Hirsch, taking place on April 30, 2009, the day before the Justice Department reversed course and declined to pursue much of the Black Panther case. Listed among the email correspondence:
    An “Email Chain with Attachments” from Rosenbaum to Hirsch dated April 30, 2009: The email chain includes “…a detailed response and analysis of the proposed draft filings in NBPP (New Black Panther Party) litigation…The response includes a candid assessment of legal research and raises questions about the case law and proposed relief….This document also contains attorney discussion, opinions, and analyses of the draft documents and case law.”
    The records disclosed to Judicial Watch seemingly contradict testimony by Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez, before the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights on May 14, 2010. The Commission, an independent, bipartisan unit of the federal government charged with investigating and reporting on civil rights issues, initiated a probe of the Justice Department’s decision to drop its lawsuit. During the hearing, Perez was asked directly regarding the involvement of political leaders in the decision to dismiss the Black Panther case.
    COMMISSIONER KIRSANOW: Was there any political leadership involved in the decision not to pursue this particular case any further than it was?
    ASST. ATTY. GEN. PEREZ: No. The decisions were made by Loretta King in consultation with Steve Rosenbaum, who is the Acting Deputy Assistant Attorney General.
    Perez also suggested that the dispute was merely “a case of career people disagreeing with career people.”
    The Justice Department originally filed its lawsuit against the New Black Panther Party following an incident that took place outside of a Philadelphia polling station on November 4, 2008. A video of the incident, showing a member of the New Black Panther Party brandishing police-style baton weapon, was widely distributed on the Internet. According to multiple witnesses, members of the New Black Panthers blocked access to polling stations, harassed voters and hurled racial epithets. Nonetheless, the Justice Department ultimately overruled the recommendations of its own staff and dismissed the majority of its charges.

    “These documents show the Obama Justice Department’s decision to drop the Black Panther case was certainly political and potentially corrupt,” said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. “The Black Panther decision is a scandal for the Obama administration and it merits serious attention by investigators. Assistant Attorney General Perez seems to have been less than candid in his sworn testimony when he said no political appointees were involved in the decision. This scandal has just gotten a whole lot worse for the Obama Justice Department.”
    http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-...-department-decision-drop-black-panther-case/

    And we are suppose to believe the DOJ an independently investigate the national security leaks?
     
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    If you have read the actual court ruling let's see your link.

    But you have not read it have you?

    This such a silly, childish game you libs are playing.

    Apparently none of you are able to emotionally deal with the idea that Obama may have done something wrong and so you stick your fingers in your ears until the story goes away.

    It's really sad.
     
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    Now I am confused. I thought us white people were the racists?
     
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    Another conservative too lazy to do his own research before parroting rightwing talking points. Google it. It's easy.
     
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    Clearly they interfered. A high ranking Justice Department lawyer, J. Christian Adams resigned over the matter when the interference began. The DOJ refused to let him appear in front of the commission even though he was subpoenaed to testify. He later spoke out on the absolute political decision not to prosecute the New Black Panthers. This is all well documented.

    I guess the only way to stop the trolling guys is to ignore them. It's all Mello has been doing for a while now. His credibility as an honest debate is long gone. The other guy has been a joke since he signed on here.
     
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    right, nobody cares that only human events and the Washington examner are making these claims....RW blogs are never wrong!
     
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    Another conservative who gets his legal theories from rightwing websites. Thanks for proving you didn't read the opinion and never will.
     
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    why would they question the sort of "media" that claims obama was a foreign born maddrassah trained commie or that hillary killed Vince Foster?
     
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    lmao so now you give me videos completely unreleated to the claims in the OP, or the judicial watch lawsuit....

    BVWCs video obsession must be contagious.

    were you not able to follow this thread or just hoping to distract?
     
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    obviously the op is lying

    <insert video completely unrelated to thread here>
     
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    You can speak for yourself which you just did in stating you don't care about political interference at the DOJ. I bet you don't care if the WH interferes in the national security leaks investigation either.
     
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    if you dont want the DOJ to be political, then dont let politicians appoint them

    and I said nobody cares that its hack blogs reporting this sarcastically....pointing out no credible news agencys (not even Fox) is....
     
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    This video is right on the money.

    [video=youtube;QSZ6BPkHMIY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSZ6BPkHMIY[/video]

    Obama and Holder are racists
     
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    Bush chose not to put them in jail...Obama chose not to take their money...

    I take it you prefer they were free
     
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    This thread was just won. The above video was posted at 2:03 PST. The Liberals response was at 2:06 PST. The video is 6 minutes and 40 second long. Clearly the Liberal posters trolling this thread DID NOT watch it. They have no interest in proof. Their only goal is to attempt to derail this thread which exposes the Barack Obama Department of Justice to be corrupt. But, we already knew it from this event, Fast and Furious, and the resignation of J. Christian Adams.
     
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    Well then who is going to appoint them? If you want it to be political as you seem to have expressed that you do then election politicians who will make it political and then lie about, as we have now.
    And you were appointed everyone's spokesman when and by whom?
     
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    lmao this video is how old? and has what to do with the recent court ruling?
     
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    lol im not going to explain why humanevents.org is not a real news outlet....
     
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    When do you think the event happened. By the way, you would have to actually watch it to know. lol... too easy.
     
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    Political appointees should not be involved in such a case. Period.

    Seems like the President and his appointees are not interested in justice and the law; only what might help them politically.
     
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    the court ruling? it was a week ago

    but still no coverage by any credible news outlet?
     
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    only career beaurocrats?
     
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    Well, you gotta admit; it looks a bit fishy. Judicial Watch president was right about one thing:.....THIS administration cannot fairly administer our nation&#8217;s voting and election laws.&#8221;

    Answer me this: had this been a handful of Skinheads brandishing clubs and intimidating people at the election places.....do you honestly believe the outcome from the Obama Justice Dept would have been the same? Do you honestly think they would have reversed the prosecution and just let it go? Be honest now.....
     

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