Data shows that half of 2019 donations to ActBlue came from untraceable 'unemployed' donors

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  1. camp_steveo

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    These could even be illegal donations from the inside that violate amount limits. Many could claim Soros. I’m not pointing fingers at anyone, but this is definitely some food for thought.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All fundraisers allow credit card donations, this is not something that is exclusive to ActBlue. Furthermore, if the concern is credit card transactions, then the emphasis should be on credit card transactions

    and for the record, ActBlue report all of their contributions to the Federal Election Commission, not the banks.
     
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    the donations are not anonymous.. they give their name and social security number and use a credit card
     
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    if someone wanted to donate more, they could just give to a pac, as much as they want, so doesn't matter anymore, the rich can donate as much as they want
     
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    Trump always attacks others for what he himself is doing

    I guess he just assumes if he is doing it, others are too

    i would check him out closely
     
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    yep, with super pacs there is no reason to try to cheat the 2500.00 limit, just donate to the super pac, as much as one wants

    what this shows is that most self-employed Americans support dems

    edit, guess it's $2800.00 now, but I never come close to that, so don't pay much attention
     
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    Im sure they also provide a stool sample and their mothers maiden name too... Gmafb.. These are most likely prepaid burner cards being used to get around the rules.
     
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    why would someone go through that much effort to donate more then $2800.00 when they could just donate to a super pac?

    what about Trump's unemployed donations, they are less, but I guess they would be just as suspicious right?
     
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    If you don't think every donation on public donation lists aren't scrutinized by opposing groups and parties, you are incredibly naive.
     
  12. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are not, hence the OP.

    But critics, including the Action Fund, contend that the website allows credit card donations that are not verified, so anyone from any country in the world can donate without a paper trail...
     
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    But every name is traced and matched to prior donations, voting history, etc. If any donation was in question someone will follow up. To believe otherwise in the face of billion dollar campaigns... alien abductions are more likely.

    This is so funny knowing the FACT that Russians actually delivered money to the GOP for Trump in the last election and are supporting the worst Pres. in history again.
     
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    To hide of couse. 50% of donations coming from random credit card unemployed sources is suspicious as hell. 4% is not.
     
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    I can’t help it if you don’t know anything about campaign finance law, or how to hide money in a 501c4 by now.

    I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to you either. You’re clearly not interested.
     
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    Don’t forget, that they laundered a lot of cash to GOP Congressional candidates through the NRA in 2016 too. That was Maria Butina’s job.
     
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    You’re beginning to figure out the core point.

    When Laffer, and Ronald Reagan convinced people that giving big tax cuts to the rich would trickle down, the argument was simpl;e./

    Let Wall Street and business make money, the benefits would trickle to everyone.

    Which is not what happened.

    The pattern of disinvestment in American heavy industry, which had been apparant for some time, continued, dispite the lower taxes on investment and wealth.

    The money went to the growing economies, where the return is best.

    And that’s still the pattern, as you just noted.
     
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    That may be true, but it has always been the GOP that led the fight to protect it and expand it.

    In the last 120 years, exactly TWO Republican politicians have ever championed any kind of campaign finance reform.

    Teddy Roosevelt and John McCain.
     
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    And they don't really get credit for McCain as he was one of the Keating 5.
     
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    I ignored it because it was obvious BS.

    It is always sad when Trumpsters and right wingers fall for these obvious scam claims.

    What’s even more pathetic, is the way Trumpsters cling desperately with greater and greater enthusiasm when they’re called out on the BS.

    You actually believe that secret money is being funneled to Biden because the donations aren’t traced when someone checks the not employed box???

    That’s your claim.

    So, test your belief.

    Try it.

    Risk $5 of your own money on ActBlue, and identify yourself as unemployed.

    And watch what happens to your email, social media feeds and you phone.

    Then come here and tell us that they don’t know who you are.

    This is one of the most ridiculous right wing memes that I’ve seen in recent years. And that’s saying a lot in the age of covefe.
     
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    Of course, what you said about the GOP is True.

    The Dems are just leveling the playing field.

    Fighting Fire with Fire, so to speak.

    True.

    Btw--Welcome Back...:handshake:
     
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    That’s true. Skating out of that one was a job worthy of Bill Barr!
     
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    That’s true.

    After the Citizen’s United decision, and in the face of the McConnell Senate, where no financial or campaign finance reform will ever see the light of day, the Democrats had to play the hand they have been dealt.

    Thanks!
     
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  24. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your post assures me, Democrats are honest people.

    really... :roflol:
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And again, reading what you've posted it seems you believe democrats to be honest people? :truce:
     

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