Debunking the " Far RW Domestic Terrorism" Lie Narrative Quickly and Easily

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    De-bunked. Don't like that? Tough.
     
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    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    How many Asians or Hispanics are members of black gangs or how many blacks or Asians are members of MS-13? Street gangs are mostly racially homogeneous.
     
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    Belch Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you do it and just just forget lefties. It's like trying to debate with CNN.

    Why bother?
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Snowflakes everywhere it seems.
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    You didn't debunk anything. Even if your argument is correct, the paper you linked is looking at the number of crimes committed by right wing extremists, not terrorism. You need data about terrorism if you want to make an argument about terrorism.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So your argument is that its merely a small threat even if it is right wing domestic terrorists but that it isn't becoming an increasing danger. So, what exactly does the recent year over year increases of attacks of this type mean, if it isn't?

    They are criminals whose greatest motivator is their ideological hatred.
     
  7. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    The Lemon BS really pissed me off.

    What this whole thing boils down to is something I mentioned earlier but want to develop a bit more.

    There is no equivalence possible between the "terroristic threat" of a few white supremacist nuts, most of them prison gang related, the crimes they do, and organized, extremist, global terrorism regardless of religion or ideology backing, that comprises very large, often government-backed organizations and networks whose specific intent is to do mass violent acts. There just isn't.

    It's a particularly noxious, dishonest LW lie narrative I am sick to death of seeing here and elsewhere. It really doesn't matter that one type of terrorism has this many victims and the other this many. That's a red herring. It doesn't matter whether those kind of networks originate under Islam or some other religion or ideology, that's another red herring. What matters is the level of organization, international nature, the specific intent, and the money backing one type that doesn't exist for the other type.

    Does that make RW domestic terrorism especially good and Islamic bad? Of course not. Does it make victims of either lesser victims? Of course not. But trying to cook up numbers of domestic terrorism by including one-off hate crimes to downplay WELL-FUNDED INTERNATIONAL NETWORKS SPECIFICALLY ORGANIZED TO DO MASS TERRORIST ACTS is the very essence of dishonesty, especially when such becomes fodder for TV Fake News racists such as Don Lemon and all the other LW sewer pipe outlets.
     
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    It's the paper that founds the "RW domestic terrorism" narrative regardless of what you think it is looking at or not. I got the paper from the narrative sources, several of them. I didn't take the paper and try to fit it to the narrative. It is a primary source of the "RW domestic terrorism" narrative, and that's a fact. If you have a problem with that, take it up with the con artists who crafted the lie narrative from the GAO paper, not me.
     
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    Addressed in the thread, in numerous posts, already. Either deal directly with that or not.
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Forgot to answer this directly. I do it for the internet fame, glory and riches! Oh, and to get laid by THOTS from the gym. Eh, you're right, why bother?
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    Where have you seen this paper being used?

    If you want to make the argument that this GAO paper doesn't prove anything about terrorism I 100% agree. I bet the author(s) would as well.
     
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    Well you don't have to go far. The Politifact article linked by the poster making numerous dupe threads on this topic (in a hissy fit lulz) after I made this one cites to the GAO report directly. So just go to one of his 3 or so dupe threads and see for yourself. It's right there. And I wasn't lying before. I examined several sources of this narrative before making the OP. They -all- cited to this bogus GAO report.

    It's not even a fing study, just some overpaid bureaucrat's white paper in service of a desired narrative. It's really no different than some propaganda puff piece from the Egg Council or other lobby when you you dig into it.

    The largest lobby in the U.S. is the federal government, taxpayers pay billions for its lobbying in its and its true constituents' favor, and to the rest of our expense.
     
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    T_K_Richards Well-Known Member

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    Link?
     
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    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    Really? There are THREE THREADS by the same poster linking to it on the front page of this forum right now. Surely you can find it.

    EDIT, eh, only two of the threads link it in the OP.
     
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    I looked, but can't find it. Maybe it's not in current events? If you link it I'll read it.
     
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    I think you are trolling, this is not the current events forum and you well know it.
     
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    Yeah well, it's BS.

    Happy?

    In fact, anything a lefty says is BS. Credibility flew out the window for you boyahs years ago. You're just.... hacks.
     
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    There's nothing to find. If they had anyuthing like 911, they would be talking about that.

    They're just hacks is all. They watch their CNN and MSNBC, repeat it here, and when called out on their BS, they just lie.

    If there was anything to this nonsense, we would be talking about something other than some stupid left wing report that nobody seems to be able to link to.
     
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    LOL honestly I wasn't. Found it though. I'll read and get back to this tomorrow hopefully.
     
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    So, I quickly scanned the politifact article and it doesn't really make the claim you are disputing:
    https://www.politifact.com/californ...rries-out-more-terror-attacks-us-soil-right-/

    "What’s clear is that far right groups have been tied to more terror incidents, often to deadly attacks or property damage. Meanwhile, Islamic jihadist inspired groups, while responsible for fewer terror attacks, have killed far more people on U.S. soil in recent decades"

    It also cites a good deal more than the GAO report:
    https://www.adl.org/education/resou...ears-of-right-wing-terrorism-in-united-states
    https://www.cato.org/blog/terrorism-deaths-ideology-charlottesville-anomaly
    https://ctc.usma.edu/challengers-from-the-sidelines-understanding-americas-violent-far-right/
     
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    I'd never heard of Don Lemon before yesterday but he seems to have uncorked the radicalised to the right posters here so well done that man.
     
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    Saying it is so, doesn't make it a fact. Would you kindly offer up the last 10 domestic terrorism attacks committed by right-wing extremists. Should be easy.
     
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    Promoting racism is never OK.
     
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    Only trumpkins think that's what he did, everyone else seems to be saying 'this is news?' so one has to wonder what it is that drives the trumpkin to become so volatile when an accurate statement is made by a gay black man.
     
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    I am asking you to not support racism.

    That there might be such a group as "radicalised to the right posters here", and thiat supposed group might get offended by a racist comment, does not make racism acceptable.
     

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