Decriminalizing cocaine, meth, speed and heroin

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...dly-anyone-dies-from-overdosing-10301780.html

 

Fine, at least we'll get doctors back involved and lower the damage to society and the unfortunate individuals that are biologically predisposed.

The real market cost of a daily dose of opiates for a high tolerance patient is about a dollar. Compare that to the economic carnage wrought by the black market created $300-500 daily dose habit. It isn't addiction that is ruining individuals, families and communities, it is the financial crisis caused each.

Addiction is curable, conviction and financial ruin isnt. Addiction is temporary for most all, and most all addicts stop on thier own, no treatment programs.

Don't buy the Government lie, and damn sure don't buy the Treatment Community lie.

Think!

Cheers

 

It's logic. When the dose is regulated for purity and amount........... Give the issue back to Family Practice Doctors, get the cops and government out of the addiction issue.

Cheers

 

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Oh, it's not partisan. The left participates whole heartedly.

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A progressive is a progressive is a progressive, whether they are Republicans or Democrats makes no difference. They all worship the initiation of force against otherwise peaceful peoples.

 

It is partisan. The war on drugs is a Republican mantra.

I was a huge Reagan fan but even then, Nancy's "Just say no" was laughable.

Nixon declared a war on drugs.

 

You could set aside a percentage of the drug tax to finance the over doses. Yet if purity was controlled over doses would go down.

Believe it or not, all of these drugs were legal in the US, available over the counter. And believe it or not society did not implode. That was back when gov't knew it had no business owning the body of its people, and considered us to be adults, who had the right to make mistakes and learn from them.

Since making drugs illegal does not stop drug use and only yields felons who then even when they do straighten up, cannot get a decent job. No clean slate in America. Insisting upon the state owning our bodies is not what the founders intended. It is what opens the door for greater tyranny.

 

- Jeff Sessions

 

• Countries should work toward developing policies and laws that decriminalize injection and other use of drugs and, thereby, reduce incarceration.
• Countries should work toward developing policies and laws that decriminalize the use of clean needles and syringes (and that permit NSPs [needle and syringe programs]) and that legalize OST [opioid substitution therapy] for people who are opioid-dependent.
• Countries should ban compulsory treatment for people who use and/or inject drugs.

- World Health Organization

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/23/who-drug-decriminalization_n_5606609.html

 

from the wikipedia entry on prisons in the United States.

Statistics from the U.S. Department of Justice show that, as of 2013, there were 133,000 state and federal prisoners housed in privately owned prisons in the U.S., constituting 8.4% of the overall U.S. prison population.[21] Broken down to prison type, 19.1% of the federal prison population in the United States is housed in private prisons and 6.8% of the U.S. state prison population is housed in private prisons.[21] While 2013 represents a slight decline in private prison population over 2012, the overall trend over the past decade has been a slow increase.[21] Companies operating such facilities include the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA), the GEO Group, Inc. (formerly known as Wackenhut Securities), Management and Training Corporation (MTC), and Community Education Centers. In the past two decades CCA has seen its profits increase by more than 500 percent.[22] The prison industry as a whole took in over $5 billion in revenue in 2011.[23]

8.4 % of American prisoners overall are in private prisons.

19.1% of federal prisoners

6.8% of state prisoners.

In other words, at worst private prisons are relatively small in number and number of inmates.

 

I've always advocated the public should have free, unlimited supplies of illegal drugs.

Let the druggies destroy themselves (die) in a safely monitored environment so they can't hurt anyone else. Then the let the rest of society move on without them.

 

No it isn't. The entrenched political powers', the government employees association's, combined with the legions of private contractors that support the war on drugs are all composed and arrayed against any demunition in the drug laws. This force exerts serious powere.

Hardly laughable, "just say no" or education based programs was /is the only logical response. Nancy, you go girl, education was the key, not creating an armed war on our citizens that broadened the conflict.

Yep, Nixon didn't really start the war, they're was broad political support through the both parties for the "war on drugs", I think the word consensus was used.

Add, let's not forget Pres. Clinton, who radically raised the tempo we faught the war on drugs. Longer sentences, more agencies involved, more incarnations.

Cheers

 

Would you be able to offer an explanation or definition as to the difference you see between "decriminalization" and "legalization?"

 

Its a myth that the prison system has become mainly privatized (of the almost 1.6 million people in federal or state prisons, roughly 126,000 are in private prisons (about 8%), see p. 26 of attached document). Also, it's a myth that most people in prison are there for non-violent offenses (a little over 50% of prisoners are in for violent crimes in state prisons (see p.14).

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/p15.pdf

 

The same people who pick up the bill when someone OD's on alcohol.

 

You believe the war on drugs was invented to help law enforcement? LOL. What?

The war on drugs was brought about to stop newly invented and dangerous drug epidemics.

Although, the war on drugs has failed.

 

Well, think about it dude. Law enforcement needs to meet their quotas every month. You find someone with pills of speed in their pocket, that's an instant arrest.

 

Who still uses quotas?
Our police department announced in like 2005 that they officially don't use quota systems

 

Officially being the key word.

 

how many still use them?

 

I'm sure that doesn't go for all police depts. I know someone at the end of April who got stopped for going five miles over, five, in a inactive construction zone, which means the cop who stopped him was falling behind on her quota of how many tickets had to be issued, and was somewhat cocky too.

 

Pretty much all of them all over the country. When they assume that X number of dollars in their funding in a given year will come from fines or from civil forfeiture, that is a quota whether they call it one or not.

 

Or the cop coulda just been a dick...

 

My guess they were being a dick. I have very good luck with the police. I treat them with repectand do give them a bs excuse. They have heard them all. Only tickets I got was one for going 85 in a 55he dropped it to 65 which was very nice of him and one for going 62 in a 55 that cop was just a dick. Been let of many times going 15 over even out of state. Even when I get stopped by the DOT i have good luck.