Demise of Biden’s student loan handout rocks Twitter: ‘Its only purpose was to buy votes’

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  1. Alwayssa

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    Not everyone goes to college. About 25% of those high school graduates go on to college. And total enrollment is about 40% for undergraduate and graduate programs, public, private, and technical schools.
     
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    That is already done through Sallie Mae and Aidvantage, among others. If you want total and permanent disability, you must prove that with either a physicians statement, signed under penalties of perjury or show an SSA Determination letter that you are totally and permanently disabled. First responders require similar proof. Teachers require proof. And the list goes on depending on which forgiveness program is out there.

    If you go to college, no matter what aid, you must fill out the FAFSA form and provide three years of tax return transcripts to them. If you are under 21, the parents must also fill out the FAFSA form and provide their financial information. The school's financial aid offices assist you and this is done online now, once you are accepted into the college/university of course.
     
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    Sure not everyone, I forget the term for it at the moment. But a significantly higher number of people are going to college today that 20 years ago, and 20 years before that, etc. this has consequences both good and bad.
     
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    So you thought shifting the debt to people who didn't go to college was fine?
    Only in the minds of the left
     
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    The people who want power the most are the ones who are more likely to attain it.
     
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    The federal government should not be subsidizing anyone's education. If the federal government wants to fix the rising cost of education let the Education Department deal with that. And it's not about the amount being paid per family, it is the total cost that taxpayers were expected to cover. Even back in the 70's I could not afford the cost so I joined the military and used the VA benefits to pay for my education. Why was it necessary for Biden to announce he was pursuing this?
     
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    Rising cost of education was going up before Student Loans became a big business. But if you don't want to subsidize any federal education, then one of the biggest benefits of the GI bill is to do away with GI payments to colleges to begin with, not to mention any VA discounts or preferences given to students. Both of those is subsidizing the program You just can't have it both ways here.
     
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    that wasn't the argument. Try again Condor.
     
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    There has definitely been an increase in nontraditional students going to college. And I think that is the term you were looking for. But nontraditional students tend to have more options from the employer paying up to $5200 of tuition for a degree in the field that they are employed in, going to graduate school or undergraduate school while working full time, using more of the online college classes that even Alabama once said they would never do, and so forth. But it also created all those "for profit" universities like DeVry or Keller or countless others as well. They are provided a mix bag of results depending on the campus or company, notwithstanding Trump University though.
     
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    Ignoring reality doesn't change the argument. It just means you don't want to deal with the facts.
     
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    The VA sent the money directly to me and I paid the colleges. The taxes I paid from my military pay helped support military members and veterans pay for an education. It works just like SS. It's not the same as someone getting subsidized money to help pay for an education.
     
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    I seem to recall that Obama federalized student loans, claiming the windfall enjoyed by the feds mainly at the expense of poor minority debtors would pay for his unaffordable healthcare scam, a fascist scheme to force a previously free Americans to pay for healthcare services they neither needed nor wanted. BTW, those of us who survived fascist healthcare and graduated to Medicare are now facing the hostage taking by the same fascists --- who want to fund Build Back Broke on the Backs of America's seniors.
     
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    Fake News. It would take 218 votes in the House, 60 votes in the Senate and the signature of Joe Biden to do that. A very specific 279 people would need to be on board.

    Name 1/10th of them who have publicly stated that they want to end Pell grants.
     
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    WASN’T THIS THE GUY WHO ASSURED US COVID WAS OVER BEFORE THE ELECTION? Biden Threatens to Veto Senate Vote Ending COVID Emergency.

    Biden stopped from illegitimately giving away $400B of US taxpayer money.

    If an Authoritarian is granted emergency power to act in an authoritarian manner, then we'll find ourselves in an ongoing cascade of 'emergencies'.

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    "Emergencies' as far as the eye can see.

    Senate vote was close to enough to override. Going forward all Congressional grants of emergency power need to come with an automatic expiration and an option to renew by majority vote.

    Blank checks result in "majority vote to pass, super-majority required to end."
     
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