Democrat Al Franken steps down for assaulting women.

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    You know what I am going to get a friend in the middle East
     
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    Nope. I did see him make a statement on television that he was going to resign though. Time will tell if he does or not.
     
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    You said- "I wouldn't refer to Jones as "reputable"." Did you make that judgement on emotions or facts? Just how is he not reputable?
     
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    Renee.....it was not me alone that elected president Trump.....I'd guarantee that bey my personal standards, his morals are no darker than yours, (or mine for that matter).
     
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    I regret that people with few morals and little self control often end up in positions of governmental power.
     
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    Which says nothing about his guilt when it comes to the first woman he admitted to molesting on the USO tour.
    Nobody throws away a national political career just to make a high minded point about sexual abuse (which isn't really intellectually consistent or convincing anyway....okay, I didn't assault anyone but I'm going to step down anyway...does this make sense? No!).

    If the women and accusations weren't piling up as more women came forward and the calls to step down getting louder Franken would still be claiming his "memory" of the first reported attack was different than the gropee's.

    I already do.

    I know nothing about them. I only know the primary victim got the chance to be vindicated and took a pass. Not very impressive.

    I'm not crazy about Moore either and it's useful to remember that Trump endorsed Luther Strange and not Roy Moore originally.

    From what I've heard people are sticking by Moore precisely because the Washington Post and elitist leftists laugh at them and disdain Alabama anyway. A lot of votes went to Trump for the same reason, I think.
    One day the left might realize that when they push people, people push back.

    It may be a form of cutting off one's nose to spite the face but it is a very real psychological reaction to bullying.
    And bullying is just what it is when rectums like Stephen Colbert nightly
    refer to Alabama has nothing more than a collection of extras from "Deliverance" waiting for director's instructions.
     
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    Any chance you will investigate the meaning of pedophilia? Myself and others have posted the actual definition.
    The alleged victim was at the time quite lawful to get married. Does that sound you as if she was say 6 or 7? She was 14 at the time of her claim. She was old enough she wanted to go to his home and to make out with with him. She even partially disrobed per her claims. Her fatal flaw is she waited far too long to expect to be believed right now. I say this respecting her anyway and that she believes what she said.
     
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    What would you present as a defense? B*tches deserved it? People accused of things get to present a defense....Yes, I'm certain I've heard that somewhere....
     
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    Hilarious... you just contradicted yourself....

    Show me a link to a quote where he admitted molesting the first woman..... Please.... I know you are right and YOU know you are right, but just HUMOR me.... Just once, prove something you allege!!....
     
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    moore isn't a pedophile, but appears to be into Ephebophilia.

    "Ephebophilia is when an adult is mostly or only sexually attracted to people in their mid-to-late teenage years, generally those in the age range 15-19.[1][2] An adult with this attraction is called an "ephebophile". Ephebophilia is not just the sexual attraction to teenaged partners, but is when an adult prefers such sexual partners.[2]"

    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia
     
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    His stance on late term abortions, for one. He's weak on illegal immigration. He's trying to present himself as not-a-Democrat as well, for obvious reasons.

    If he wins he'll be another liberal drone in Washington.
     
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    Really?..

    I can't find a link of the first allegation from the sports broadcaster/model but you are welcome to forward one to me.
    All I know is Franken freely admitted to crossing boundaries in that rehearsal where he insisted on rehearsing a kiss over this woman's protests and then claimed "I remember events differently" from the woman.

    Make the most of that.
     
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    The yearbook that was supposedly signed by Moore belongs to the woman who took on Allred as her attorney and Allred will not release it to a neutral third party. If your "facts" do not align with this scenario you aren't dealing with facts.
     
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    Translation: Dems keep getting caught on film and so they cannot actually keep denying what everyone KNOWS that they did. GOPers on the other hand keep getting ACCUSED of inappropriate activity but there is one thing generally lacking in those accruals . . . a single shred of . . . proof.
     
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    NO one thought he wasn’t innocent of inappropriate behavior. He also lies under oath about it and we angry as hell! Don’t you want trump investigated also?
     
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    But at least he has a job.
     
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    People who typically seek positions of authority, no matter how low on the scale that position might be, are typically not the people you'd want in them.
     
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    I would bet his morals are way below mine, if your are like his, it explains a lot
     
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    Investigate Trump till your eyes glaze over for all I care. But since he is president, I want the job done well. So far, so good.

    i argued with dozens if not hundreds of Democrats when Clinton was president and they called Ken Starr some pretty nasty minded things. I was hoping to locate one Democrat who was revolted by Clinton. Still looking for one. My lamp of justice is lit and seeking justice.
     
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    Allred would have authenticated the yearbook inscription before presenting it if it was not an obvious forgery.
    I expect her to trot out an expert within the next few days. Too little too late.
     
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    They find the Clintons revolting now, of course. Now that they no longer wield power and can't suicide them anyway.
     
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    Trump was putting women into CEO positions in a time when it was unheard of and in a field where it was unheard of.

    The man has been in the public spotlight for 30 or 40 years. Not one claim of racism (quite the opposite in fact by winning multiple awards), and not one claim of sexual abuse (again, quite the opposite).

    Trump isn't perfect, none of us are. Immoral though? No.
     
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    Okey Dokey... Here ya go... Can't believe I'm still posting this stuff... it's public record

    SNIP
    Original Allegation - Bolding is mine
    He repeated that actors really need to rehearse everything and that we must practice the kiss. I said ‘OK’ so he would stop badgering me. We did the line leading up to the kiss and then he came at me, put his hand on the back of my head, mashed his lips against mine, and aggressively stuck his tongue in my mouth.

    1st Statement - Pretty light, but no admission here
    I certainly don't remember the rehearsal for the skit in the same way, but I send my sincerest apologies to Leeann. As to the photo, it was clearly intended to be funny but wasn't. I shouldn't have done it.

    2nd Statement
    Picture - no admission of groping or touching.... just admission is was a douchy thing to do....
    For instance, that picture. I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter. There's no excuse. I look at it now and I feel disgusted with myself. It isn't funny. It's completely inappropriate. It's obvious how Leeann would feel violated by that picture. And, what's more, I can see how millions of other women would feel violated by it—women who have had similar experiences in their own lives, women who fear having those experiences, women who look up to me, women who have counted on me.

    Skit
    While I don't remember the rehearsal for the skit as Leeann does, I understand why we need to listen to and believe women's experiences.
    ENDSNIP

    Believe him or don't believe him, none of that is an admission of guilt and he's been remarkably consistent in his statements, including today... I challenge Trump to remotely try to achieve that...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/franken-allegations/546092/
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/16/politics/al-franken-apology/index.html
     
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    So the whole, "throw her in jail," chant was just what? She was never tried nor convicted of a crime. Methinks thou dost protest too much.
     

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