Democratic Presidents Clinton, Obama left a legacy of political pardoning

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  1. Booman

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    I know that dance! It's called "The Swalwell".
     
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    what’s your point? obviously trump believed the fbi - which was a mistake trusting the obama holdovers...nobody knew the lengths of corruption the obamagate gang was up to
     
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    My point is Trump will allow all his criminal compatriots to flourish in the swamp right along with him. Trump is the Swamp King.
     
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    what are you talking about he fired Comey.

    Folks like Flynn are more then welcomed back
     
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    Don't make me ****ing laugh....
     
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    Of course his swamp creatures are welcomed back. Gotta keep that swamp flourishing.
     
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    Comey, McCabe et al aren’t welcomed back...maybe i wasn’t clear

    people exonerated of false accusations by swamp creatures are
     
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    Other than the Swamp King, who exonerated Flynn? The AG doesn't count because he is Trumps cuck.
     
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    huh? he was exonerated by the evidence
     
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    So nobody other than the swamp king.

    Figures.
     
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    huh? the fbi did in 2017...but the swamp kings...obama, biden, comey et al ignored the FBI
     
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    The Russian Collusion charge has been entirely exposed as a democrat manufactured hoax. It’s over.
     
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    You must only watch CNN. Everyone and everything about Russian collusion has been exposed as a hoax from beginning to end.
     
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    Way too many unanswered questions for any thinking person to conclude that.
     
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    Collusion does indeed men conspiracy. A quick look in a dictionary might be helpful as well as spell checking post before actually posting it.
     
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    i think you mean; mean...not men.

    agreed mueller found no conspiracy. he was quite clear about that
     
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    You made a wild, partisan claim and were unable to back it up. Duly noted.
     
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    The Cult gets the best hallucinogens.
     
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    OK, compare this to Roger Stone.

    President Barack Obama took the rare step of commuting two federal death sentences — the first time a president has spared someone from execution since 2001. Abelardo Ortiz, a Colombian national convicted in 2000 of a drug trafficking murder, and Dwight Loving, convicted in military court in 1989 of killing two cab drivers in Texas, will now serve life sentences.
    https://www.themarshallproject.org/...-on-the-death-penalty?ref=hp-2-122#.p3GhaMNxs
     
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    Wouldn't it be interesting to show Klepper (or someone) sit down with each of those people, have them watch themselves, and comment on their own "performances?"

    Hell, it probably wouldn't make a bit of difference. They'd probably consider themselves to be geniuses, like their hero. It actually saddens me to hear people like that, so convinced that Trump is a demi-god that they just cannot see their own hypocrisy.
     
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    Whataboutism. Nice attempt at deflection.
     
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    ROFLMAO! Best post of the month!

    :roflol:

    Which reminds me ... I live in Colorado, where psilocybin has been decriminalized. I've heard I can get some at a recreational marijuana dispensary up in Denver. Road trip! :mrgreen:
     
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    And? Sorry, but I don't see the controversy in either of those. They were not pardoned, and will remain in prison for the rest of their lives.

    You seem to have forgotten the issue being discussed on a thread that you started. Very Trumpian.

    As a reminder: the OP includes a claim that both Clinton and Obama were just as guilty as Trump in using pardon power to reward allies. Your link is to the Washington Times.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-times/

    Note the Funded by / Ownership section. The Washington Times was founded by the Moonies, a cult known to use brainwashing techniques on their own members. A very questionable source at best. Nothin in the linked article backs up the claim that either Clinto or Obama used pardons for political allies, although I will grant you that Clunton's last minute pardon of Marc Rich probably qualifies. Other than that, you got nuthin'. Zilch. Nada.

    The fact is that Trump commuted Stone's sentence as a reward for his not spilling his guts to authority, and set it up nicely so that, if Trump himself is ever tried for his part in Stone's criminal activities, Stone can "take the fifth" and refuse to be a cooperative witness.

    The reason you cannot find anything even close to this in Obama's pardon list, which you were kind enough to share, is that unlike Trump, Obama's close associates, administration staff, and campaign officials were never indicted for crimes, unlike ... how many Trump buddies? Cohen, Stone, Manafort, Gates ... I'm forgetting some ... ah, yes. Sam Patten, George Nader, Michael Flynn.

    There is no comparison to Trump's level of corruption. No one else comes close, not even Tricky Dick.
     
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    Nice deflection about Wash Times. But tell me what's your real problem with what Stone did versus the criminals that Obama let off the hook. I won't even go into Clinton letting his brother go. Let's just stay with Obama. Explain to me the trouble with Stone for a minute, I'm trying to understand your hatred.
     

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