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Democratic Presidents Clinton, Obama left a legacy of political pardoning

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by icehole3, Jul 13, 2020.

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  1. Pants

    Pants Well-Known Member

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    I agree with you, completely. However, I think - on this commutation - Billy has found himself in a tight spot. I think the pressure needs to be put on him at this point...
    Excerpt from his confirmation hearing:
    Sen. Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) asked the Republican lawyer, "Do you believe a president could lawfully issue a pardon in exchange for the recipient’s promise to not incriminate him?"
    Barr responded with no real equivocation. "No," he told Leahy. "That would be a crime."
     
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  2. struth

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    why do you disagee we the AG?

    wait wait..you are suggesting the mueller report was wrong and their was a russian conspiracy and Stone is the key....hahaha
     
    struth, Jul 14, 2020
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  3. struth

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    your answers are in the mueller report....hint in the end no conspiracy!
     
    struth, Jul 14, 2020
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  4. The Mello Guy

    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    No these are questions left from the mueller report. Report says so also. but yes their lies prevented mueller from uncovering any conspiracy
     
    The Mello Guy, Jul 14, 2020
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  5. struth

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    there are no questions left. Not one.

    if their lies were successful they wouldn’t be convicted...they wouldn’t of known they lied.

    there was no evidence of a conspiracy in 2016...Clapper, Comneu and Yates said as much under oath...there wasn’t any after a unnecessary mueller appointment and there remains none. Read the report
     
    struth, Jul 14, 2020
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    Have somebody sober keep an eye on you. That one really messes with your head.
     
    (original)late, Jul 14, 2020
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  7. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    I've given them hard evidence and they're still dug in, it's no hope. Their only response in the end is Barr is a cuck.
     
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    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nothing to defend Trump as there is no evidence of a trade while we know for a fact the Clinton's did and you and the left wanted them back in the White House.
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 14, 2020
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    What deflection? I was merely pointing out that your source is very questionable at best. Shooting the messenger, aren't you?

    Good grief! Where to start?

    Stone refers to himself as a "dirty trickster" ffs. Did you know that he has a tattoo of Nixon on his back?

    Stone lied to congress about WikiLeaks, tampered with (actually threatened) witnesses and obstructed a House intelligence committee investigation into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to tip the 2016 election. Stone is the guy who coordinated the publication of DNC hacked documents with Julian Assange, arraging the date and time for release of documents obtained by Russian hackers.

    He's a creep and a liar. Dunno about you, but I don't like *******s, and I especially don't like those who manipulate our electoral system or support the spread of vile, disgusting propaganda using our social media platforms.

    I honestly don't understand your defense of Stone. He has no credibility whatsoever, as proven by a court of law.
     
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  10. The Mello Guy

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    Report lists several, as you’ve been shown.
     
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    Stone said he’d get commuted because he kept quiet. Lucky guess I imagine lol
     
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  12. struth

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    no it doesn’t. i see where you had a couple...relating to manafort and his former employee but they have been addressed
     
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    when? quote him
     
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    The FBI.
     
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  15. The Mello Guy

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    The report specifically says they were not.
     
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  16. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope and he confirmed it last night that he never said it. He said he would not lie in order to give Mueller something.
     
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  17. icehole3

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    I don't defend Stone. I defend my OP. Now tell me how Stone compares with a guy who tried to break out of prison and is responsible for 6 US deaths and God knows how many other deaths around the world. We pinned 6 US deaths on this fella. You're on my case about Stone, defend Obama.
     
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  18. struth

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    Well quote the report and cite the page
     
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    Maybe you should read the parts after the highlighted section where he says there is no connection between him sharing data with his employee and Russian interference in the campaign.

    Question is answered

    Ans
     
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    Apparently he wouldn’t tell the truth either.
     
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    because of questions about Manafort’s credibility and our limited ability to gather evidence on what happened to the polling data after it was sent to Kilimnik, the Office could not assess what Kilimnik (or others he may have given it to) did with it.”
     
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  23. Bluesguy

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    No trade.
     
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    Quote him.

     
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    sorry the report specifically says there was no link. question answered.

    fyi polls were published publicly regularly.
     
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