Democrats are bringing a knife to a gun fight - Trump WILL steal the election

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by CenterField, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. CenterField

    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep. Semantic pretzel. You said in all words that you had not misunderstood issues AT ANY OTHER TIME!!! I called you out, you said it only related to ONE post. (Predictable semantic defense).
    Look, you're not fooling anybody. The posts are there for people to read and reach their own conclusion. Drop it. You're not getting anywhere with your lame defense.
    Thanks for the mirror, but no, thanks.
    3 more bags will do. Six bags in total is good. Thanks.
    It's great that you're a source of entertainment AND pop corn. The whole package! We're thankful for having you here.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, there you go. Thus, the concern.
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Gore had more votes. Whats Trumps reason?
    The only way he could lose is is if we cheated more than his supporters did?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yep!

    :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    I'm trying to grasp your logic here.

    So you're saying Trump's actions, inactions and behavior while in office had nothing to do with anyone's view of Trump, it was actually the media that was responsible for people's disdain for Trump. But I guess over 70 million Trump loving voters were immune to that. Or are you saying there really is no hatred of Trump, the media just claims there is because they invented it?
     
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    I do not think that will happen, Trump is crazy, but most republican do not want to destroy the fabric of this country to steal the election for Trump

    the best they will do for Trump is stay quiet while he has his trumper tantrum....

    Republicans already control the SC and most likely the Senate, so they couldn't care less about Trump, they wish he would just go away quietly into the night
     
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  7. LoneStarGal

    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm saying that Trump has a personality flaw of being nice and respectful to people who are nice and respectful to him and being very nasty and attacking people who barrage him with nasty attacks. The media used his Achilles heel to their advantage to create a caricature of a "Pure Evil Trump" to divide the nation and sow hatred against our sitting president. I believe that the media caused a lot of the public to actually "feel" hate and anger. So no, the hate is not fake, but it was largely created by propagandists and activists carrying out an obvious strategy.

    Being nice to our friends and hostile to people who attack us is actually fairly common across most of human nature. An organized bullying mob can make a scapegoat and demon out of anyone, especially when the mob enters peoples' homes every day on their televisions and computers.

    Anyway, all of us lying dog-faced pony soldiers and "ugly folks" will expect to see media paint Smilin' Joe as a saintly do-gooder while his policies continue to widen the wealth divide between the rich people in his elite class and the growing numbers of poor. His policies are going to pinch the people currently doing the worst, but he's "nice", right?

    "The divide" is a media plan funded by the largely unknown globalist strategists and mega-donor funders. There is only one party in America. It's the RINO/DINO party, and they do not work for the people. Any political outsider who tries to benefit the people is a "bad man" who deserves daily scorn and punishment.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^Incredible example of cognitive dissonance. I kid you not, folks. This kind of thinking does exist!
    Wow!
     
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    Oh please, don't act so surprised. Donald Trump thrived on the negativity. He loved it. It let him both play the victim and appeal to his base by snapping back at it. He gave as good as he got making him as much a part of the devolution of civic decency as the news media and regular people on social media were.

    Elect a politician who loves negativity and that's exactly what you're going to get.
     
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    Meanwhile, in the real world, Donald Trump loves the negativity because it benefits him. It allowed him to play the victim and then appeal to his base by clapping back at it. That's been his MO for much longer than he was president.

    The Donald Trump you're talking about only exists in social media posts written by fawning supporters who obviously don't understand who the actual man is. They could, if they wanted to, but they like their version better.

    It's just one of many reasons folks warned against electing him in 2016.
     
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    The media and politicians certainly all do their part trying to influence people. But unless one hasn't got the capacity to think independently and judge based on the behavior of the individuals in question (and I'm sure there are plenty of stunned zombies out there, tens of millions based on the voting data), any fool with any reasonable level of intelligence should be able to differentiate between good and evil regardless of the propaganda. This guy was a master at the art of lying and even though Trump may have never heard of him (because he's so incredibly ignorant and illiterate), it seems to me the idiot-savant-pathological-liar-in-chief must have picked up on it from a very early age:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels

    Note this does not mean I regard Biden as an honest Joe either. His record is not very good on the subject of honesty.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You don't think you've been influenced by consumption of new media which only tickles your own ears, you might want to get a bit more centered before believing that Joe Biden is one ounce better than Donald Trump.

    What is more deceptive? A rude guy who will tell you if he wants to take you down, or a nice guy who smiles at you then stabs you in the back the minute after he made you feel "safe and secure".

    Trump was the enemy of The State. The State just convinced half the country to reinstall the corrupt establishment back to power with a wink and a smile.

    The media has become the mouthpiece of The State. Did that thought ever occur to you? There is only one party. Trump's successful rise as an outsider was "an accident". The people might not ever get another chance to elect another outsider who will try to disrupt and unmask The State.


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    "The public hate for Trump has been a creation of media"

    So Trumps own words an actions on twitter has nothing to do with it? The media is just picking on Trump?
     
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    His whole claim to fame is "your fired".... lol he's whole schtick is he's an a##hole. That's what he chose the media can misrepresent alot true except for his own words that people watch live. People dont like it even people who vote for him start off the pitch for him with "I know he's a jerk but...." or "I just wish he'd get off Twitter but other than that...." that's all his doing not the media
     
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    "......and being very nasty and attacking people who barrage him with nasty attacks."

    Barrage is definitely not the right word.... if he's merely criticized he lashes out
     
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    "What is more deceptive? A rude guy who will tell you if he wants to take you down, or a nice guy who smiles at you then stabs you in the back the minute after he made you feel "safe and secure"."

    Both scenarios you've laid out I get stabbed so I guess I'd rather the nice talk before hand too
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ See a mirror for more examples . :aww:
     
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    A rock is better than Donald trump. The only thing I need from the media is the video and audio footage of Donald Trump opening his face hole.The media doesn't need to tell me what I can tell for myself. But they're not stupid either, it's their job to report what anyone can see for themselves. They even get paid for that lol.

    Well I've had 4 years of the former and I can only imagine what another 4 years would be like, so even a rock is better than that. As to the latter, at least he sounds human so that's a refreshing change even if it might be a facade. I personally have nothing to lose by giving the latter the benefit of the doubt, especially given the alternative.

    Yes the enemy of the United States and the planet too for that matter.

    And here I thought Trump lost the election. IMO they're all corrupt, so it's a matter of level of corruption.

    Yes I'm well aware, I've been studying 9/11 for the last 15+ years. The media has yet to acknowledge the multiple 9/11 lawsuits or the latest petition to Congress to investigate the Anthrax attacks or questioned the corrupt 9/11 "investigations". You would think they would at least report that these exist and perhaps even report a bit of detail about them.

    For a long time I viewed the exclusive 2 party system as 2 sides of the same coin. Divide and conquer. But I must say these so-called Republicans, groveling to this pathological lying narcissist doesn't look like the Republican party I used to know, it looks more like a cult to me.
     
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    I can't wait until 2024 and we face whatever 'X' issues arise and the masses can't blame Orange Man Bad for it. We as a country then would have to do something called: INTROSPECTION.
     
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    CenterField Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Point to an example, instead of a knee-jerk retort. Where exactly have I displayed cognitive dissonance?
     
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    electors will not switch, this is just fearmongering..

    i know exactly what Trump is doing. First, i think he really does believe fraud is a possibility given how corrupt democrat officials are and the fact that we had a record # of mail in ballots this election.

    but, if no wide spread fraud is uncovered, Trump is laying the ground to make many believe he wasn’t a loser, election was taken from him. The primary reason for this is payback, for what democrats did to him for 4 years - advancing falsehoods that russia interfered and trump was illegitimate, 2 years of russia collusion sham, sham impeachment and non-stop smear campaign. Trump, as we all know by now, is a combative person. There is NO WAY that he was just going to concede and be nice whilst the media, democrats continued to demonize him and enjoy his defeat. Trump is making sure he gives them a dose of their own medicine and not let all of them enjoy this moment to the degree they hoped for. Then, as democrats did with trump, trump is making sure millions of americans doubt biden is legitimate...
     
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    Gore did not have more votes, even though they recounted over and over again, even changing election laws on the fly, and still Bush won Florida.
     
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    Of course he did. Overvotes with clear voter intent were legal votes under every version of Florida law. Those votes were never even counted once, as the machines spit them out without counting them. If they had been counted, Gore would have won easily, no matter what the chad standard was. The chads were just an excuse that the Bush team used to sucessfully stop the counting of the legal votes.

    You cheated. You won. Get over it already.
     
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    Nice set of alternate facts you have there.
     
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    Me thinks you are missing at least a couple priorities in that list (no order):

    - Set self up for higher political office.
    - Utilize political experience as a tool to monetize namesake (MSM analyst, talk show host, lobbyist, etc).

    These do not necessarily fall in line with "be reelected" so much as "do not stray too far from party line". You can't be an analyst on Fox News doing what Justin Amash did during the impeachment. But Doug Jones could certainly be available for some Biden administration job. And somebody like Matt Gaetz will definitely fit right in as a 2024 long shot - primarily designed to boost his political credz.
     

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