Derek Chauvin Appeals Murder Conviction, Claims Protesters Intimidated Jury

No one will be satisfied no matter what happens. So many people have so much emotionally invested in the incident. Will there be violence if the verdict is overturned:

 

He certainly has a point as there was a clamoring mob assembled outside the courthouse was there not?

But I don't know what venue he could go to or the people would not be quite familiar with the case?

 

Not to mention a HoR Maxine Waters calling for violence if the jury came up with anything but "guilty guilty guilty!!!"

 

Indeed. Everyone watched him murder Floyd.

 

In my opinion, due to the circumstances of the situation, the punishment was drastically excessive.

This was not the type of "murder" that is obvious murder.

It was a mistake of the type that would not be that difficult for an officer to have committed in the situation. Circumstances partially justified what he did, and he had no realistic expectation that it would result in death.

The outcome of the trial and sentencing was very unfair. I think the jury and judge were biased by emotion.

 

Sorry, that's just a logical fallacy for multiple reasons.

People like you are just being emotional.

There were some good reasons that partially justified what he did, even if overall those actions were not the right decision.

When the suspect has a very big body size, physical strength, and is acting irrationally and erratically under the influence of drugs, and officers cannot easily exert physical control over the suspect... and then when the officers are frustrated because they exerted a lot of effort to get him in the car but then he seems to just tumble right out and they realize they'll have to start the process all over again, they're going to get frustrated.
Plus with a suspect like that, if he was not subdued, there's a possibility he might have run into traffic and killed himself.

Chauvin also arrived on the scene a little later and was not aware of everything that had just gone on before. To him, when Floyd claimed he could not breathe, it probably seemed like just manipulation, the incoherent rantings of someone who was being irrational.

Everything he did was not unnormal for the type of thing many normal police officers would do in that situation.

Floyd has to accept blame for his own actions, which strongly contributed towards the situation that got him killed.

The jury was misled by the expert testimony that suggested that only Chauvin's actions resulted in Floyd's death. In reality, he most likely would not have suffocated if not for the fentanyl that caused depressed and shallow breathing. Not to mention the drug-induced emotional hysteria that contributed to the heart attack.

 

Facts do not matter to someone who has an agenda to push. They already know all of these things that you pointed out but they pretend that it doesn't matter

 

And besides, he was a big black and everyone knows that big blacks are violent and dangerous even when they're pleading for their lives and saying they can't breathe. They're like apes y'know

Bullshirt. If Chauvin had fired a pistol into the back of Floyd's neck some cons would be saying it was a "normal and accepted control technique". The guy murdered him and thousands of us watched. I know of children who have nightmares of this.

 

There may be a pattern there. Big size with a muscle build like a professional boxer, acting strongly emotional, irrational, and resisting... throw in the use of drugs...

This isn't the first time the combination of all those factors have come together.

 

If police had injected him with a sedative to subdue and tranquilize him, he would likely also be dead.

He wasn't that far from death. It would have been very difficult to subdue him in any way without putting his life in danger.

What do you think an arrest is? You seem to have very unrealistic expectations about what government and police are capable of doing.

Hindsight is always 20-20. If you had been the police officer in that situation, you might have committed a fatal mistake too.

By the way, there are tons of people who get hauled off to jail and don't get adequate medical attention, and a few people die as a result. That is a separate issue, but that type of mentality does partly explain what happened in this story.

 

Sorry, but I don’t waste time making up excuses for the actions of a racist cop.
Too many people like Chauvin have infested law enforcement and we should be rooting them out, not spouting mealy-mouthed justifications for their crimes.

 

Thank you for explaining to us all how the judge and jury were biased.

 

It's sure as hell not the first time we've heard it, that's for sure.

"Jest look'a dis dumb dahky, tried to swim the rivah wrapped in 600lbs 'a stolen chain"

 

Lol…there’s always a bias for truth among people of good will.
That’s why those who still believe the trump gang's constant diarrhea of “alternative facts” get so butt hurt when the rest of us reject their nonsense.

 

The judge and jury were biased, that's true, they were normal human beings, not murderous thug policemen

 

I told y’all verbatim what was going to happen.

Chauvin was going to lose in court because if he didn’t, the country would burn.

However, Chauvin will appeal after the emotions from the case have died down and he will win or at least get a drastic reduction in sentence.

 

Unless you’re 150 years old you ain’t never heard that either. And neither has anybody else that’s alive.

BTW, they didn’t say darkie lol

 

I’m sorry. Exactly what makes you think he was racist?

 

Floyd probably would have died either way. When you down that many drugs to hide the evidence, one of your organs was bound to explode. Only a matter of time. They proved nothing Chaivin did prevented him from breathing. Plenty of people have duplicated the entire event who were in good health and although they said it was very uncomfortable at times, NOT life threatening.

The most important factor was the drugs. He could have went into cardiac arrest in the car driving over or in the jail cell while he was sleeping it off, if he actually followed orders in the first place. But he didn’t. He fought with cops, made up BS about being claustrophobic and wanted to sit on the ground. The cops were nice enough to let him. They could have hog tied him in the back seat instead. I’m sure he was hoping with the mob gathering, he could make a break for it at some point since that’s what people on drugs and life long criminals always do. But his heart blew up instead.

Cities would have burned if Chauvin got off. We all know this. The cost wasn’t worth this mans future sadly. But that’s what mob violence does and Leftists know this. It’s a tool. I wouldn’t put my life on the line as a juror knowing who was waiting outside. And with the MSM as scummy as they are it wouldn’t take long for identities to be revealed and that’s when the real damage would begin. You’ll have sociopaths hunting jurors down. They all took the easy way out. 1 mans future. I get it.

 

Nah...
I doubt that...

 

Won't work and the appeal will be denied.

 

Jury convicted Chauvin based on evidence. The most damaging evidence was the autopsy report and the fact that he violated his own police procedures when dealing with George Floyd. When you have the police department stating that Chauvin violated the policies and procedures of what he did and how he did it, the jury takes note of that. Chauvin also had a history with Goerge Floyd when Chauvin was moonlighting as a security guard/bouncer at a bar where George Floyd worked in. Nothing in the appeal is going to overturn the conviction or even get a new trial.

 

Well, yes. he has a VERY violent past and pulled this exact same stunt 2 years prior on police officers. What's funny is the difference between when myself and thousands of other officers did this exact same technique was that none of those people were on fatal amounts of fentanyl. That pos floyd was his own enemy for his whole life. We're so much better without losers like that.

 

Uhm no. Chauvin was quite literally on him, with his knee on his neck. When Floyd was saying "I can't breathe," Chauvin replied, "If you can say that, then you are breathing." On top of that, when there was no response, Chauvin didn't even bother to call the paramedics. It was bystandards there, two of which were paramedics, off duty, to go in and try to save George Floyd's life.

BTW, police do not carry sedatives or anything of that nature. Most police departments will have tasers along with the service weapon. An emergency medical kit with an epipen for fentanyl drug overdose is also available. But none of that applies. Remember, it was all based on a "fake" $20 bill that was being passed. Chauvin assumed it was George Floyd without going through the proper investigation in determining who, what, how, when, where, and to what extent, how George Floyd came into possession of that $20 bill.

 

Yeh, we should hire more professional murderers for the police