Derek Chauvin Murder Trial is on

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    Suicide by George Floyd for resisting arrest, taking an overdose and generally being an all round scumbag,.
     
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    Both coroners listed the manner of death as homicide. Did Chauvin give him the drugs?
     
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    It's likely that there will be riots no matter what the verdict is. The riots will be either out of anger or celebration.
     
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    He placed his knee, not bearing down, on the back of his neck to control his head so as to control his torso. As for breathing, he was saying he couldn't breathe when they were trying to place him in the cruiser. If you watch all three videos, you see they were attempting to arrest him respectfully while he resisted with great effort. After failing to get him in the cruiser, they took him to the ground and held him while he calmed down and they could catch their own breath after having worn themselves out trying to get him in the cruiser. On the M.E. report there was absolutely no damage to Floyds neck, not even a scratch to his skin. His neck muscles, ligaments and bones were undamaged, not even a slight bruise. Floyd had advanced cardiovascular disease, the remnants of the covid virus, and a boatload of heavy duty narcotics in his system. All of this in conjunction with over exertion and the stress of being arrested for passing counterfeit money is what caused his death. With advanced cardiovascular disease, something as benign as smoking a cigarette or having a cup of coffee or walking up a flight of stairs can put you in the emergency room. Floyds blood contained caffeine, nicotine, THC, pseudoephedrine, oxycodone, morphine, methamphetamine and fentanyl. And preventing two grown Officers from placing him in the cruiser required the physical effort the equivalent of running up ten flights of stairs. Floyd wore out the two Officers which was probably accomplished with adrenaline and the methamphetamine. With all of this in mind, it is patently absurd to say he was murdered. He wasn't punched, slapped, kicked, choked, strangled, struck, shocked, shot or in any way brutalized. He was simply subdued.
     
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    The medical examiner’s office ruled that the manner of Floyd’s death was homicide.

    The cause of death, according to the medical examiner, was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression."

    PolitiFact | Two autopsies found George Floyd’s death was a homicide
     
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    IMO, that was neither scientific nor medical. But rather pandering to the mob in deference to the optics, regardless of all the physical and medical facts to the contrary. In short, they told the mobs what they wanted to hear. And I think that it's absolutely disgusting to betray their loyal public servants, the Officers, that way.
     
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    There's going to have to be a lot of explaining to do here. Floyd was subdued all right to where it cost him his life. How do explain that?
     
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    Lol. Yeah, everybody's lying. Good luck with that bizarre claim.
     
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    According to the coroner he had those drugs in his system, he had a long history of abusing meth and fent. And fighting the police. And assault. And robbery. There’s quite a list.
     
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    Homicide. Your "list" is irrelevant
     
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    You sound superstitious. I just explained it to you. People die on the operating tables, emergency rooms and ambulances all the time, even while medical professionals are trying to save their lives. Do we say they were murdered? Point is, Floyd was dying by his own reckless conduct, choices, and ailments. Just because the Cops happened to be holding him down at the time, doesn't make them his killers. sheesh, wake up dude. Stop gulping the status quo in the media. The Democrat media told us Trump, his admin, his family and his campaign officials were all traitors in league with Putin. They weren't. They told us Zimmerman murdered Martin. He didn't. They told us Judge Kavanaugh was a sexual fiend and serial rapist. He wasn't. They told us that Michael Brown was murdered by a racist Cop. He wasn't. They told us that the Covington High Schoolers confronted and mocked the noble native drummers. They didn't. They told us that Jussie Smollet was attacked by Trump supporters. He wasn't. They tell us that blacks are victims of society in the same instant that blacks are victimizing society. They characterize blm and antifa as protestors even while they are brutalizing, destroying, burning, looting and rioting in masse. It never ends with the corrupt Democrat media. I can't believe you aren't clued in to that fact yet.
     
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    The leftist groupthink mobs lie pretty much about everything. You wanna go along to get along and hop on their merry bandwagon, knock yourself out. It's your integrity in the balance, not mine.
     
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    Everybody's lying. It's a communist conspiracy against...who exactly?

    Leftist groupthink mobs. Is that who you think controls the ME's office? What a joke.
     
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    Actually that does not rationally arrive at homicide. For giggles, what is the evidence of neck compression. And how does that cause heart failure when his heart was failing throughout the entirety of his arrest.
     
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    Oh! I know what's going on here but there are those that say that Chavun is a killer and there may be some that say he isn't but the fact was that Chavun might have been too stupid to let up. Chauvin might have been a great cop in the past but did a kneeldown to kill someone. Does that make things right? or should I say: Would that be the right thing to do. Would that be the right thing to say? What do you tell George Floyd's family about what Chauvin did?
     
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    Gonna be one hell of a violent summer if he gets off. Even if found guilty of the lessor of the charges.
    BLM and Antifa will not, will absolutely not let this slip by and quietly end. They will spin the results to however they see fit to rot their narrative.
    Nope, just not gonna let this slip, for them this will be a golden opportunity. The chance of a lifetime. A defining moment in history.
    What’s that smell you ask? Milwaukee, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, LA, Detroit, Memphis, philly, Cleveland and many more burning.
     
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    ME...internet guy...

    Tough choice. Smh.

    If Floyd died of an overdose, the evidence escaped the ME. The official manner of death is homicide. This isn't in question. Chauvin is free to prove the ME wrong.
     
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    That pretty explains what happened.
     
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    What the corners said and what the chief said... is not my opinion, but theirs as experts on the case.
     
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    No corner said that, and you proved nothing.
     
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    It was 3-4 times I personally showed you the Coroners report and you keep saying wrong things about the report.
     
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    I am guessing the cop will be found guilty of manslaughter, because his actions resulted in unnecessary death, but it was not pre-meditated.
     
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    That's untrue, now you're just blathering misinformation.

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06...report-with-cause-of-death-and-other-factors/

    Toxicology (see attached report for full details; testingperformed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine)A.
    Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:1.
    Fentanyl 11 ng/mL2.
    Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL3.
    4-ANPP 0.65 ng/mL4.
    Methamphetamine 19 ng/mL5.
    11-Hydroxy Delta-9 THC 1.2 ng/mL;Delta-9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/mL; Delta-9 THC 2.9 ng/mL6
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    Cotinine positive7.
    Caffeine positiveB.
    Blood volatiles: negative for ethanol, methanol,isopropanol, or acetoneC.
    Urine drug screen: presumptive positive for cannabinoids,amphetamines, and fentanyl/metaboliteD.
    Urine drug screen confirmation: morphine (free) 86 ng/m

    Is there a reason you're not telling the truth?
     
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    Yes, they found substances from his system (he was an addict) but he did not die of a drug overdose, which is painfully clear from the video. People who suffer OD go limp, but the video shows him talking and being alert.
     

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