Derek Chauvin stabbed by inmate in federal prison, seriously injured

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  1. Izzy

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    Some things never get old.

     
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    It was in that post dude, as the conclusion of one of the screenshots YOU posted ffs.
    Did you not READ the screenshots beyond the top bit? O MY.

    Dude: LITERALLY that's the definition of hearsay.
    The documentary? Hearsay.
     
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    Their training means zilch when the subject is in the medical distress as was Floyd.
    The defining moment was when Chauvin was told Floyd had NO pulse and Chauvin continued to keep his knee on Floyd's neck and didn't administer CPR.

    btw: The video that you think will absolve Chauvin & thugs clearly shows Chauvin's knee on his neck, NOT his shoulder.
    Your buddies claims are DOA, just like George Floyd was.
     
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    He knee was not on his neck and he is notrequired to administer CPR under those conditions why do you think the EMTs did not begin treatment at the scene? Flyud was dead already.
     
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    And he was not hobbled read the training manual I posted. Duderstadt that is NOT definition of hearsay .
     
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    I posted the link to the offical autopsy and the notes from the ME. It was not suffication and he had a lethal dose of fentanyl in his body.
     
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    Chauvin was REQUIRED to get him off of his back and administer CPR when told Floyd had No pulse.
    He should have been put on his side when Chauvin was on his NECK and the 2 cops held him down when he said he couldn't breath,which he said over and over.
    The 4 of them were told by spectators that they were killing Floyd.
    They also knew that he had urinated which is a DIRE sign

    Go look at the knee/neck photos.
    My god, the ridiculous claims you spew that have been debunked time and time again.
     
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    Literally the notes from the autopsy list the police hold causing undue stress.
    LITERALLY in the notes you ****ing posted.
     
  10. Izzy

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    This explains it quite simply.

    "The decision to “load and go,” rather than triage at the scene, was likely based on their race against the clock, Scheerer said. Unloading all the equipment can often take much longer than treating a patient from inside the ambulance.”

    Here, Getting to the hospital while using the equipment on route was the decision.

    https://www.ems1.com/fatal-incident...equipment can,severe the situation had become.'
     
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    You're right, the autopsy doesn't say suffocation, it says it was cardiopulmonary arrest caused by subdual, restraint, and neck compression. That's the cause of death, not a drug overdose
     
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    It says no evidence of neck compression or suffocation and you left out the lethal dose of drugs.
     
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    In a load and go they load him and move a few blocks away and the STOP to administer immediate treatment WHICH THEY DID.


    Medic testifies in federal trial George Floyd was ‘probably deceased’ on scene
    "Smith said paramedics put Floyd in the ambulance and took him to another location to be treated for many reasons, including because bystanders were using “elevated tones.” In the ambulance, Lane did chest compressions and Smith used a cardiac monitor that showed there was no electrical pulse to Floyd’s heart."
    https://www.ems1.com/legal/articles...-probably-deceased-on-scene-mt7j683vlvGnbZDX/
     
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    Yes police restraining someone can cause stress depending on how hard the person being restrained in resisting, what is your point. His neck and chest were not stressed, his heart was stressed due to it's heart disease and drugs in his system compounded by the physical struggle HE CAUSED to happen.
     
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    No he was not and the no pulse came when the EMT's arrived and they moved him into the ambulance. Chauvin was required to secure the scene and keep him and his officers save and the suspect restrained and no longer fighting and resisting on the ground where Floyd PLACED HIMSELF.
     
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    which is why the police do cpr up until the point emt arrive if needed
     
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    hard to believe anyone still defending this, we all saw the video
     
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    Based on this, I think Derek Chuavin may be wrongly convicted of murder.
     
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    all this could have been avoided had he not escalated an accusation of someone spending a counterfeit $20, that video was horrible and did him in, once someone is in handcuffs, no excuse for that

    as for this guy, no excuse for his actions either, charge him...

    "Derek Chauvin was stabbed 22 times in federal prison attack, according to new charges"

    https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/n...2-times-in-federal-prison-attack-charges-say/

    "MINNEAPOLIS — The inmate who stabbed former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin in federal prison last week did so 22 times, with an improvised knife, according to recently filed criminal charges. He also admitted to corrections officers that he would have killed Chauvin had they not responded as quickly as they did."
     
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    looks like he is doing better

    "Derek Chauvin Has Left Trauma Care and Returned to Prison Custody for 'Follow-Up Care,' Says Lawyer"

    https://people.com/derek-chauvin-has-left-trauma-care-and-returned-to-prison-says-lawyer-8410198

    "Chauvin’s attorney Gregory M. Erickson says in a statement to PEOPLE, “Derek’s family confirmed that his medical condition has improved to the extent that he has been removed from the trauma care facility at a local Tucson hospital and returned to prison custody for his follow-up care.”"

    "Inmate John Tursack has since been charged with attempted murder of Chauvin, along with assault with intent to commit murder, assault with a dangerous weapon, and assault resulting in serious bodily injury to Chauvin, who is serving a 22-year sentence over the murder of George Floyd. "
     
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    [QUOTE="Bluesguy, post: 1074558013, member: 48853"]No he was not and the no pulse came when the EMT's arrived and they moved him into the ambulance. Chauvin was required to secure the scene and keep him and his officers save and the suspect restrained and no longer fighting and resisting on the ground where Floyd PLACED HIMSELF.[/QUOTE]

    ffs!
    You know zero about the evidence presented at trial and continue to spew the most desperate and pathetic claims trying to defend the indefensible actions of Chauvin and his thugs.

    It's on the cop's audio /camera that Chauvin was told Floyd had no pulse and asked 2x if they should turn him on his side to which Chauvin said "NO".

    The 3 cops knew minutes before the EMTs arrived that Floyd was lifeless and all 3 still kept him in the same position with the same force on Floyd that had already killed him.

    Your offensive bullshit on having to keep the scene safe would be hilarious if it wasn't so mentally deranged.
     
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    I've yet to hear who the then 14 yr old victim of Chauvin is.
    No civil suit?

    'Former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin Sentenced to More Than 20 Years in Prison for Depriving George Floyd and a Minor Victim of their Constitutional Rights'

    snip:

    'In the plea agreement, Chauvin also admitted that he willfully violated Mr. Floyd’s constitutional right not to be deprived of liberty without due process of law, which includes an arrestee’s right to be free from a police officer’s deliberate indifference to his serious medical needs. Specifically, Chauvin admitted that he failed to render medical aid to Mr. Floyd, although he saw that Mr. Floyd was lying on the ground, in serious medical need, and although he was aware that MPD policy required him to provide emergency medical aid, including CPR, to an arrestee who needs it. Chauvin admitted that his failure to render medical aid resulted in Mr. Floyd’s bodily injury and death.

    Additionally, according to the plea agreement, Chauvin admitted that on Sept. 4, 2017, he willfully violated the then-14-year-old child’s constitutional right to be free from an officer’s use of unreasonable force. Specifically, Chauvin admitted that he held the child by the throat and struck the child multiple times in the head with a flashlight, resulting in the child’s bodily injury. In the plea agreement, Chauvin also admitted that he held his knee on the child’s neck, shoulders and upper back for between 15 and 16 minutes, even though the child was face-down on the floor, handcuffed and not resisting. Chauvin admitted that these actions resulted in the child’s bodily injury. '

    cont:
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/former-minneapolis-police-officer-derek-chauvin-sentenced-more-20-years-prison-depriving#:~:text=On Dec.,police officer, resulting in Mr.
     
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    That is not even close to accurate. The autopsy does not say anywhere that there was no evidence of neck compression, nor does it say there was a lethal dose of drugs in his toxicology report. Again, neck compression does not mean neck injury, saying there is no injury to the neck is not the same as saying there was no neck compression.... It literally lists neck compression as one the causes of death

    You can read the autopsy here, feel free to point out where it says drugs were the cause

    https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hen...ety/medical-examiner/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf
     
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    I found it!

    'Minneapolis has now paid more than $35 million because of Derek Chauvin’s excessive force'
    Ryan Raiche and Ricky Campbell KSTP
    Updated: April 14, 2023 - 8:31 AM

    snip:

    'Newly released videos show former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin kneeling on the necks of two handcuffed suspects years before he did the same to George Floyd.

    The edited videos were made public Thursday after the Minneapolis City Council voted to settle two civil rights lawsuits for nearly $9 million.

    John Pope will be paid $7.5 million. The city settled with Zoya Code for nearly $1.4 million.

    They accused Chauvin of excessive force during separate incidents in 2017.

    Their attorney, Bob Bennett, released edited body camera footage shortly after the settlements were approved.

    [​IMG]
    New video shows Derek Chauvin kneeling on a teenager’s neck in 2017, three years before he murdered George Floyd.

    The video shows Chauvin hit Pope twice in the head with a flashlight, choked him until he lost consciousness and then knelt on the back of his neck for 15 minutes. Pope was 14 years old at the time.

    “I think it shows a culture and a pattern of behavior that is approved within the department,” Pope said in an interview with 5 INVESTIGATES. “That if it’s not shown publicly, or not posted, that they can hide it or keep it to themselves.”

    Months before Pope’s arrest, Chauvin dragged Code by her wrists, pushed her face into the ground and then put his knee on the back of her neck for several minutes.

    https://kstp.com/5-investigates/min...on-because-of-derek-chauvins-excessive-force/
     
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