Did going bankrupt in '91 prepare Mr. Trump for the Presidency?

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Did going bankrupt help convince Mr. Donald Trump to run for POTUS?

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  3. Maybe.... I will research this further.

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Within two years I am thinking that you will retract that statement...... perhaps not publicly.... but in your own mind at least.
     
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    https://app.box.com/s/nnabzje9yyb5bcgk3xvatpoisynrnqf2
     
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    NO!!And neither did any of his other 5 (FIVE) bankruptcies.
     
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    I wonder which bankruptcy saw MAGA first get bailed out by the Russians. I heard somewhere it happened when his casino deal didn't work out.
     
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    From what I have seen nothing prepared Mr Trump for the Presidency.
     
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    President Trump's courage to tackle flaws in Federal Reserve policy is a key to saving the USA economy.



    Paul Hellyer - Abolishing Fed and new energy disclosure key to US survival
     
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    Intelligence and the ability to be an effective manager are clearly the simple traits that make a great President.
     
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    A willingness to risk their own careers and even their lives for a higher cause on behalf of the ordinary people is also important.

    https://www.michaeljournal.org/articles/politics/item/abraham-lincoln-and-john-f-kennedy
     
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    Don't be so sure.....

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    I am now wondering if President Trump might just be tempted to coopt certain aspects of the Andrew Yang campaign platform?

    ANDREW YANG FOR PRESIDENT 2020
     
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    I like Andrew Yang far better (so far) than anyone else running for the presidency in the Democrat Party. One nasty sticking point, though -- this nonsense about a "Universal Basic Income". It's bad enough that we have dozens of different handout welfare systems in this country -- so Yang wants to add "Universal Basic Income"...? It's just more typical Democrat something-for-nothing bullshit!

    In short, so far I haven't seen a compelling reason not to vote for the re-election of Donald Trump next year....
     
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    I would love to see the Fed and the IRS abolished, however I have not heard anything from Trump or his regime regarding that. When he hired another typical Goldman Sachs chisler for Secretary Of Treasury, it was clear that he is just another swamp creature and tool of the international bank swindlers.
     
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    Agreed. Steven Mnuchin is not a person that I would have ever wanted to see in any role in government. And I agree that the Fed should be abolished, too (if it could be done by tomorrow afternoon it wouldn't be a moment too soon for me....). Since 2007, we seen the heavy hand of the Fed controlling both Republican and Democrat presidents, who meekly obey and stand aside to let this banking cartel do whatever it likes to the economy.

    Reality: the Federal Reserve central bank combine was put into existence by liberal Democrats a little over a hundred years ago under the leadership of Woodrow Wilson. We'll never be rid of the damned thing now.

    It's always going to be 'shades of gray' in government as a consequence. The Fed completely runs the Amrican economy and everything in it since summer of 2007, and the same is true of other central banks in all other leading countries in the world, except for two -- RUSSIA, and CHINA... where the government tells the central bank 'how it's going to be', and not the other way around....
     
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    Woodrow Wilson was a Democrat, but I would hardly call him a liberal and the Senator who was in the pockets of the banking cartel and actually wrote the Federal Resrve Act was Nelson Aldrich a right wing Republican who also co opted several other sell out Republicans. Wilson definitely sold us out by signing the bill. Democrat William Jennings Bryan was the main opposition to Aldrich and the bankscum. I know you hate Democrats and liberals at this point Polly, but get your facts straight before trying to blame all the ills of the world on liberals like the rest of the brain dead Hannitized Trumpist trolls here on PF. You are better than that.

    If you want to know the story behind the Fed, there is a great book called: The Creature From Jekyl Island.
     
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    Lousy credit begets a lousy interest rate and that won't change. My view is that Trump learned how to go bankrupt, screw over the investors and workers in the process, and emerge unscathed. Now, as president, he can take advantage of his position and attack the very institutions that had oversight over his nefarious behavior.
     
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    Wilson a Democrat was duped into signing the Federal Reserve act but it was written and promoted by Nelson Aldrich a Republican Senate Leader who was a lackey for Paul Warburg, John D Rockefeller, JP Morgan and The Rothschild Banking Cartel in Europe. Aldrich also wrote the legislation to install the 16th Ammendment which created the IRS which is was taken right from the 2nd plank of the Communist Manifesto. Liberal Democrats, my ass. Read Aldrich’s Wiki Page....John D Rockefeller named his first son. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller. These scumbags have controlled our government since 1913, not 2007.
     
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    I don't necessarily disagree with most of what you've written, but it is a fact that 'Woody' Wilson ended up being the almost-perfect liberal Democrat and one of the biggest "Progressive" leaders of the time. I have assumed that "progessive" and "liberal" are two near-synonymous identifications of essentially the same political 'disease' in its effect....

    Perhaps we may agree that Wilson was the epitome of a 'paradox'. He had risen from a Southern conservative background, but he was "Mr. Progressive" all the way: https://www.conservapedia.com/Woodrow_Wilson

    From the link:

    "Wilson was a very complex man filled with paradox. He was a southern conservative—an elitist with a profound distrust of radical ideas and such left-wing populists as William Jennings Bryan, but (he) became the Democratic Party's most effective advocate of advanced progressivism."

    Perhaps to two guys with our roughly similar viewpoints, it might be like trying to discover which is worse to find in bed with you -- a Black-Widow spider or a Brown Recluse. Like those spiders, creatures like Wilson, FDR, Lyndon Johnson, and Barack Obama are to be avoided at all costs whenever possible!
     
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    The fact of the Matter is that Right wing Republicans like Aldrich, Warburg, Rockefeller, Morgan along with their co conspirators in Europe foisted the Federal Reserve and the IRS and Commie Income Taxes on us in 1913. Wilson, the compromised whore that he was, sold us out as have every Republican and Democrat President since. The only 2 that have even tried to challenge these scum since then are Kennedy and Reagan and both were shot.

    I knew a guy named Aaron Russo that I met while working as a gaffer in a movie years back. He made an excellent documentary titled: America, Freedom To Fascism. If you get some time, watch it. He was a great man, he invented bikini underwear for women. He nailed it in his documentary. This whole left vs right Demikin vs Republicrat crap is a diversion to keep Americans bickering over silly details while the bank swindlers keep on stealing with both hands.
     
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    Thank you, Jack. I have found the documentary you suggested, and for other readers, I'm posting the link below:
    . There are several of them on YouTube, but this one says it is a "director's cut", so it may be the best of them.

    I don't deny that Republicans AND Democrats ("Progressives"... and whatever) worked together with those wanting to saddle the United States with a central banking cartel. They've ALL got 'blood on their hands', and it is a sobering thing to realize toward the end of your life that you have lived your entire life under the delusion that we have had a truly 'free-market economy based on Capitalism' since 1913. It's all been a lie and an intricate manipulation. As I said, we'll never be rid of it now....
     
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    Thank you for posting that great video. Aaron died a few years after he tried to wake us up. He was one of the greatest people I have had the privelege to have known in my life. He was a kind of hippie counterculture guy who ran great nightclubs and was hassled by the cops at every turn but he kept coming back with that great smile and the determination to do what he thought was right. RIP.

    The Democrats and the Republicans are like the ex DEA guy Mike Rupert said, like The Genovese and Gambino families having a few squabbles from time to time while working together to fleece the rest of us. When Trump called out Jeb Bush in the first GOP debate regarding Bush’s comment on his brother Keeping America safe, I sent money to Trumps campaign. Later after realizing that Trump was a two bit conman I supported Johnson Weld. Then Trump as expected hired scumbag Munucin as Secretary Of Treasury, I knew I was right just like I did when Obama hired Geithner. If Trump or anyone else would announce that he wanted to abolish IRS and the Fed, I would support them in a NY minute.
     
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    But...... if there actually is to be a surge in land prices in rural America then something big must happen.... and President Trump coopting some of the Andrew Yang platform is one quite real possibility?
     
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    Andrew Yang appears to be the best of a bad lot (a hideous lot, actually....).

    Where I run into a brick wall with Andrew Yang is with the typical Democrat Party pandering to the welfare crowd with the concept of "universal basic income". It's nothing but an old, scammer's pantload of "free stuff" in one variety or another.

    I remember Democrats peddling this sh!t as far back as the late 1960's. But, hey, it's a real magnet for bottom-feeders who lust for 'free stuff' from the government. That was true 80 years ago when FDR started this miserable 'handout welfare-state' crap, and it's been true ever since -- right up to and including this day....
     
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    But.... if a Basic Minimum Income will inspire a significant percentage of women to choose to give birth to their babies
    rather than have an abortion..... this makes it well worth considering in my opinion.


    It also has the advantage of being nearly the opposite of what President Obama and his team did
    from 2009 to 2014 because their method of stabilizing the economy did not accomplish what they were hoping
    it would.
     
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    Compared to other Western countries, the US recovery from the 2010 financial collapse was slower and lack lustre.
     
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    With regrets, Dennis, I'm unmoved from my opinion that any Democrat idiocy about a "universal basic income" is pure pandering, 'free stuff' HORSESHIT. To paraphrase Shakespeare, "a turd by any other name is still a TURD." And, something-for-nothing from the government is still a very BAD idea which will only jack inflation into the stratosphere, and further ruin the value of the American dollar.
     
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