Did LBJ kill the Kennedy brothers?

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  1. dave8383

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    Trump tries every day to orchestrate his own coup. So far he hasn't been successful, but there's still hope.
     
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    Trump, like JFK, is the target of a coup from within the bowels of the "intelligence community". It's obvious. And for much the same reasons.
     
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    Neither is yours.
     
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    Sure son. Was McCain behind it? Do you have his deathbed confession?
     
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    Unlike you and Dayton, I realize my opinion is just that. My opinion. And unlike you and Dayton, I don't want to censor other people just because they have a different opinion than I do. I believe in free speech, especially when it comes to political issues. For whatever reason, you two favor a more Stalinist approach, one where views are arbitrarily censored based on their content alone.
     
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    Don't you have anything better to do with your life than troll an internet forum, old man?
     
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    Do you have anything to do but spread wacko theories, uneducated young lady?
     
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    No, we just know BS when we see it.
     
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    If you don't like my theories, then argue against them using facts, logic, and evidence. Or just ignore them. That's what a real man would do. Instead, you just troll me and cry for censorship, like a little girl.
     
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    This forum is overflowing with BS. Much of it coming from you and Dayton. Yet I am not demanding that you be censored. Unlike you, I actually believe in the importance of free speech.
     
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    Stop crying about being laughed at young lady, it's pathetic.
     
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    You're the one who is crying. You want this thread to be censored because you're so sensitive and wimpy.
     
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    No one said anything about censoring you. We're just laughing at you, sweety. You may grow up some day.
     
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    Arbitrarily relegating threads to the "conspiracy theory" subforum because a few whiny babies don't like the content is a form of censorship, cupcake.
     
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    We know, the world confuses you so you make up theories to explain it. Mental hospitals are full of people like you.
     
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    I am seeing a lot of asserting by both sides but not a whole lot of evidence.

    Let's see what the professional historians say about it.

    Do they think LBJ had Jack whacked?

    If Connally was in on it, why was he shot?

    I have been to and up and down and around above Dealy Plaza, and know it as well as anybody on the Board, except maybe some who live close by, which is not close by anymore.

    The grassy knoll is not across a hundred meters of sloping grass and wood land. It is right on top of the Plaza, no more than twenty yards distant maybe. While it would have made an easy shot, there was no cover and the place was crawling with people. I don't think anyone with a long arm could be up there waiting for more than a few seconds before being spotted.

    The sixth floor window was a different matter. With the cartons piled around and across the window, the shooter was looking right down on the sidewalk and on the street. Yes, it was very close and intimate. Any decent shooter with a bolt-action rifle, with practice, could have made those shots.
     
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    That isn't their job. They successfully supported perhaps one coup and that was the one in Iran. And that was in concert with the British.

    And no the CIA did not attempt a coup against Trump (and I support Trump).
     
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    LBJ took it to new quantities, similar to NIXON & Watergate.
    NIXON & Watergate was just a quantity too big.


    In my life, LBJ beats Obama as
    Liar In Chief.
    I voted for Obama '08.


    What was the question?
    Remember Seth Rich and the Clinton body count!
     
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    Experts have been over and over the wounds and the Zapruder film. There was no second shooter.
     
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    Conspiracy nuts are so sensitive.
     
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    Are you still trying to claim you aren’t an America-hating conspiracy nut?
     
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    What America and this forum needs is more free speech...that's worth listening to.

    This thread is not in that category by the way.
     
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    ok, dayton :)
     
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    No, but I'd recommend replacing the foil in your hat just the same.

    If the goal was to destroy the Black Family, then yeah, it was a raging success.

    There's no evidence to support that.

    A gun-shot residue test was positive on Oswald's right hand, but negative on the left hand, both cheeks and chin.

    Based on that, the only possible logical and scientific conclusion that can be drawn is that Oswald fired a hang-gun, which he freely admitted, when he stated he killed Officer J D Tippitt.

    To date, not one single person living or dead has ever replicated Oswald's feat.

    I'm sure some of you will run to the CBS propaganda documentary in which it is falsely alleged that an NRA member did.

    He did not.

    The NRA rifle expert merely fired three shots. He did not fire three shots exactly as Oswald is alleged to have fired them.

    So, that's a massive fail.

    No one who lives now, or who will ever live, will ever be able to replicate Oswald's alleged rifle skills, because it is physically impossible. If you claim Oswald fired the 1st and 2nd shots, there is no possible way for Oswald to fire the 3rd shot, and that's a conspiracy, because there are two gunmen.

    For those who do doubt, listen closely to the CBS propaganda documentary and the audio tape at the National Archives and compare.

    This is what you will hear on the CBS propaganda documentary:

    Boom!............Boom!............Boom!

    That's what the NRA rifle expert did, but that's not how it happened, and the audio of the assassination at the National Archives tells the story, because this is what you will hear:

    Boom!..................Boom!...Boom!

    As you can all painfully see, one of these things is not like the other.

    You replicate Oswald's alleged feat if, and only if, you replicate exactly the shot-grouping on the National Archives tape.

    Some of you might ask yourself how it is that the assassination was recorded on audio tape?

    That, in and of itself, is proof irrefutable of a conspiracy.

    A motorcycle cop in the motorcade was a Pawn in the Conspiracy.

    It might help to understand how complex conspiracies actually work.

    You have the Principal(s), the person or people who come up with the idea. They are generally beyond reproach, people with standing in the community or their career-field, so they have a lot to protect, and for that reason, they never get their hands dirty. Instead, the Principals will employ Actors to plan and carry out the Conspiracy for them. The Principals may know, or know of the reputation of the Actors in advance. They often have professional relationships, but not social relationships, although they might move in the same social circles. There's often a common link between them.

    The Actors never get their hands dirty, either, and they want to insulate themselves from exposure as much as possible, so they use Pawns. Pawns have no knowledge of the Conspiracy, or the Actors or the Principals, and Pawns typically do whatever they normally do in the ordinary course of business.

    Take the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey as an example.

    The Port Authority is bidding out all of its assets for privatization, including the ports at Bayonne and New York, the airports -- JFK, La Guardia and Newark, the bus stations, the rail and subway stations, and buildings, including the World Trade Center.

    The Port Authority is bidding out the World Trade Center in 2005, but I need it bid out in 1999.

    What am I to do?

    Simple: I get someone to get another to get someone else to lobby the board members of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to change the bid date to 1999.

    This is what the Pawn normally does anyway, because the Pawn is a lawyer, banker, real estate agent, federal, State or local government employee, with a public relations firm or lobbying firm.

    The Pawn has no knowledge of the Conspiracy, has no contact with the Actors or Principals, and is doing what they normally do, so they suspect nothing. The Pawn might even think there is a career advantage or financial advantage or both.

    The motorcycle cop was a Pawn, because the assassins have to be signaled, right?

    I mean, you can't stand around in the open for an hour holding a rifle with hundreds of people looking at you, including cops looking at you.

    But, if the assassins are hidden, how will they ever know JFK has entered the kill-zone?

    They won't.

    Signaling the assassins using police radios is just common sense, because it solves the problem, plus gives a bonus.

    The motorcycle cop keyed the microphone before the motorcade entered Dealy Plaza and kept it keyed all the way through to the triple-underpass.

    By keeping the microphone keyed, he locked out the radio channel barring all police from using the radio, so even if a cop saw one of the assassins, he would be unable to use the radio to relay the assassin's location and physical description to any other police.

    That's how the rifle shots were captured on the Dallas Police Department Dicta-phone system and preserved for posterity.

    The motorcycle cop has changed his story several times. He first claimed the radio malfunctioned, by that was disproved by Motorola and an independent electronics firm who examined the radio.

    He then claimed he accidentally keyed the microphone, but Motorola disproved that, too. The reason police departments all over the US used the Motorola radio-system on motorcycles was precisely due to the fact that it was impossible to accidentally key the microphone. Motorola film demos for the radio system are available. Those demos were used for sales purposes, but Motorola produced a new film demo after the assassination to refute claims of accidentally keying the microphone.

    The motorcycle cop has never said who approached him and told him to key the microphone, but then why would he?

    Anyone capable of assassinating a President would be capable of a lot worse, and all of it directed at him and his family. It's in his best interest to keep his mouth shut and just get over it.

    And, we know the assassins had radios, because their voices were recorded and preserved for posterity.

    The assassins were "cross-talking" on the radio. The Dallas Police radio dispatcher noted it in his log, then interrupted the assassins by telling the assassins to stop cross-talking and follow proper police radio procedures.

    The assassins complied.

    The Dallas Police Department made every police and civilian employee listen to the voices of the assassins in an attempt to identify the voices.

    None of the police or civilian employees were able to identify them.

    The Dallas Police Department then ordered all police and civilian employees to provide voice recordings for independent voice print analysis and it was proven that the voices were not police or civilian employees.

    To date, no one has ever been able to identify the voices, although some have made unsubstantiated claims that one of the voices was that of a particular CIA agent or operative.

    I would also point out that audio analysis of the assassination by three independent labs resulted in one lab claiming only three shots were fired, one lab claiming that four shots were fired, and one lab stating it was unable to determine conclusively that 3 or 4 shots had been fired.

    It was a conspiracy and Oswald was just a patsy.

    The Warren Commission Report contains a number of falsities.

    First, Oswald was not self-taught in Russian as the Commission claims. During a hearing before the House Select-Committee on Assassination, a Marine officer hand-carried Oswald's military 201-File to the Commission and either accidentally -- or perhaps intentionally -- let it slip that Oswald had been trained in Russian at the US Military Language Institute then-located at Presidio of Monterey in California.

    Second, Oswald was not a "loner" as characterized by the Warren Commission. It is true that few people at Oswald's base knew him or interacted with him, but the Commission failed to disclose the true reason.

    Oswald was TDY -- on Temporary Duty -- for 2 to 8 weeks at a time. Oswald was TDY being trained in preparation for his mission.

    Finally, the Warren Commission down-played and hid Oswald's links to the intelligence community.

    Oswald did not defect to the Soviet Union. He was ordered there by his own government. Oswald was part of program to gather intelligence for targeting analysis.

    Remember, there are no satellites and aerial imagery has limited capability. The only way to know for certain if a city is worth targeting, and how many nuclear warheads should be used on the city is by putting people on the ground.

    It's an undisputed fact that the US obtained targeting data on Minsk, and that the data was obtained only at the exact time Oswald was there and at no time before or after.

    Oswald was the US intelligent agent in Minsk. He was school-trained in Russian, and TDY to prepare him for his duties there.

    That's also why Oswald was the only US defector to never be debriefed by the FBI.

    Since Oswald was a US intelligence agent, there was no reason for the FBI to debrief Oswald.

    And, that's why Oswald's military records are still classified and will probably be classified until 2040,

    Oswald's ability to speak Russian, plus his phony defection and training in intelligence techniques is why he continued to be used as an asset to infiltrate pro-Castro groups.

    Oswald's down-fall was his eagerness and desire to please, blinded loyalty and willingness to do whatever his handlers asked him to do.

    That made him a great patsy and even better pawn in the JFK Conspiracy.

    Based on my studies, it was JFK's own party who wanted him dead.

    JFK was a disaster and about to be blown out in the 1964 Election.

    But, if JFK resigned, and JFK could have resigned citing health problems and not one person in the US would have questioned it, then LBJ becomes President, JFK's numerous errors, failures, miscues, missteps and such would be gone, and the Democrats have a really good chance in the 1964 Election.

    Lest any of you forget, regarding the so-called Cuban Missile Crisis, it was JFK who blinked and backed down, not Khrushchev, the Republicans knew that and were about to expose JFK for the fraud he was.

    There's reason to believe that several Democrats approached JFK in January 1963 and asked him to resign, but being the conceited arrogant jackass that JFK was, he told them to bugger off, and that's what set the assassination conspiracy in motion.
     
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    Mircea maybe right on one, dead wrong on the other.
     

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