Did Obama Surveil Trump? Sure Looks That Way

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  1. expatpanama

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    from: http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-obama-surveil-trump-sure-looks-that-way/

    Editorial 7:05 PM ET

    Domestic Spying: Rep. Devin Nunes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, says that the Obama administration surveilled Donald Trump's transition aides and possibly Trump himself following November's election. If true, it warrants a major investigation.

    "I recently confirmed that on numerous occasions the intelligence community ... collected information about U.S. citizens involved in the Trump transition," ...

    ...the leaks of former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn's conversations in late December with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Those talks have been treated as sinister, with the Washington Post even suggesting that they were a violation of the Logan Act, a possible serious crime.

    But U.S. intelligence gatherers could quite easily get an "incidental" trove of material on Flynn, simply by getting a surveillance warrant on someone they knew he was likely to talk to...

    ...this appears to be a pattern of surveillance put in place by the Obama administration...

    ...Trump's calls with foreign leaders have likewise been leaked. By whom? For what purpose? This is clearly illegal behavior, and calls into question the reliability and loyalty of the entire intelligence community. Why are the Democrats not furious at this, as they would be if it were one of their own who was targeted?...

    ...it warrants a deep investigation. Who in the federal government was collecting information on Trump's aides and why? Was it for political reasons? Or part of a plan to undercut his presidency from the very beginning? Why haven't the leaks been stopped?

    No one right now has all the answers. But the pattern suggests a surveillance program that would be a far more serious breach of the law than Watergate ever was. It's time the American people found out.


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    Background info:

    This is what Trump said:
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    This is what the wire tap law says:

    The "Wiretap Act" (the "Act") is a federal law that is aimed at protecting your privacy in your communications with other persons. Typically, when you think of a "wiretap," the first thing that comes to mind is someone listening to your telephone calls. But, the Act protects more than that.

    Under the Act, it is illegal to:
    • Intentionally, or purposefully,
    • Intercept, disclose, or use the contents of
    • Any wire, oral, or electronic communication
    • Through the use of a "device"... ... that is, some mechanical or electrical tool or apparatus, such as a tape recorder.
    The Act provides criminal and civil penalties for violations, and it has various exceptions to when interceptions and disclosures are not illegal.​
     
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    Yea, the word "illegal", "criminal" and "into the executive branch the information was leaked", are getting tossed around with frequency.....yes, this is very serious and the intel is not connected in any way to the Russians.

    Boom. Blows Watergate right out of the water.
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You had to know when Trump tweeted that Obama tapped his phones he had more to go on than just a sneaky feeling. It's coming out there's no stopping it now.
     
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    Still zero proof of Trump's ridiculous claims. He's allegedly the President, why doesn't he declassify all the relevant information and provide it to the public?

    Oh yeah, it's because he's full of ****. Glad he still has shills pathetic enough to spam the internet with unsubstantiated garbage though.
     
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    Uh, yep. It's happening.
     
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    Democrats don't care about rules or laws , of course they did it !
     
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    They don't have far to go to get Obama. Maybe Ivanka can pick him up on her way to the White House and drop him off at the FBI for his arrest. Save everyone some time and car pooling helps the environment.
     
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    The swindler-in-chief can put all the powers of the presidency behind this and demand all records pertaining to any kind of surveillance. He's obviously being as truthful about this as he has about everything else in his nefarious life. And his fans are too ignorant to understand how easily he can prove his claims.
     
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    obama is a criminal and belongs in prison.
     
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    Meanwhile, here's you and the rest of the lying, anti-American left:

    heads in sand.jpg
     
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    and the Obama faithful are too ignorant to understand that he abused his powers of the Presidency to spy on Americans and a political rival. He broke the law and someone will go to jail for this.
     
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    Declasssify what information that will prove what? Thse people are good at covering their tracks and the MSM is not going to tell the government where they got it. It seems someof thisbis being discovered in the NSA investigation and legs hope we can find who gathered this infomation under what authority who they gave it to and who unmasked it. Don't you think?
     
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    Probably because there is absolutely zero proof that anything remotely like that happened except in the desperate right-wingers fantasy land.

    Newsflash: Unfortunately President Obama is no longer president. These lame attempts by the Trump team to try and turn down the heat under their feet because of their VERY comfortable relations with a foreign power is pathetic at best and are only stoking the fire even higher.

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    "Tapp." Lol, what an idiot.
     
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    Winning feels good. Feels real good.
     
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    Ahh we know someone illegally released classified private information. We have zelich evidence pf any Trump Russia xonnextion not even reasonsible suspicion.
     
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    The Trump DOJ needs to be purged of leftover, lawless Obamites to assure an honest look at the Obama Adm.' apparent crimes.
     
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    Thank god someone exposed trumps lies about his teams Russia connections
     
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    Yeah except of course for Flynn, Manifort, Trumps visits to Russia, etc, etc, etc. The Trump do do just keeps getting deeper and deeper and his supporter look more and more like the three blind mice.
     
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    Still trying to beat that dead horse, despite EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWING that the apparent, exposed felonies of the Obama Adm. had nothing to do with Russia?
    Fun to watch your flailing....

    :deadhorse:
     
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    There's a thread about that. This one's about Obama going to prison.
     
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    Nothing to see here, move along. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
     
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    He's being outed. This don't look good at all, at all.
     
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    because Trump is playing chess and you and other liberals are playing checkers

    this is his strategy make that accusations have the proof but sit on the evidence let the democrats with their lap dog media fall all over them selves make fools of them selves with all their denying and calling it one big fat conspiracy theory let them do so for a week or two then drop the evidence and drops the mic and let the media and democrats sit their in front of America with egg on their face with no more credibility
     
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    Prepared by Maxine Waters! :roll::roflol::roflol::roflol:

    MAXINE WATERS

    • Democratic Member of Congress
    • Member of the radical Progressive Caucus
    • Member of the Congressional Black Caucus
    • Chief Deputy Minority Whip in the House of Representatives
    • Voted against the 1991 Gulf War after it began, and in March 2003, was one of 11 who voted against the resolution to support our troops after the Iraq War commenced
    • Has traveled to Cuba and has praised Marxist dictator Fidel Castro
    • Rationalized and justified the actions of the 1992 Los Angeles rioters
    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) named Waters as one of the 13 "most corrupt" members of the U.S. Congress.

    In August 2007 she voted against a bill permitting the Director of National Intelligence and the Attorney General to monitor foreign electronic communications which are routed through the United States—provided that the purpose of such monitoring was to obtain "foreign intelligence information" about suspected terrorists. In June 2008 she voted in favor of a bill specifically prohibiting this type of surveillance.

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1264
     
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