Dirty Donald suggests we NUKE hurricanes??

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  1. kriman

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    You are looking at it wrong. They frequently talk about the relative power of a hurricane versus a nuclear bomb. That is very misleading and is just a way to avoid further argument. There are a number of ways to explain what is wrong with that concept. It is something like saying I have to have a 200 HP accelerator to control my 200 HP engine in my car.

    September tends to be the most frequent month for hurricanes. That is not a coincidence. It takes a number of favorable conditions to create a hurricane. Warm water and a source of cool air. Just enough wind to keep it moving, but not so much as to cause the top to shear off. Those most frequently occur in September in the Caribbean. Get rid of one of those items and you decrease the intensity or completely get rid of the hurricane. A hurricane usually starts from a energy impulse in the Easterlies. Physically, it looks like an open wave. i.e. It does not have a closed circulation. As it moves from east to west, it finally encounters favorable conditions for development. There has been discussion of this off and on. A nuclear weapon could be used to disrupt one of the factors favorable for development. You don't have to have power equal to a forest fire to stop a forest fire or to prevent it. You just have to disrupt one or more of the factors needed for a forest fire.

    However, it has always come down to the fallout and the inherent dangers. Whip that, and there might be a solution. It is always worth discussing. The biggest mistake is not discussing it.
     
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    LOL! Thanks for the science lesson, although it was very condescending. I know how hurricanes form.

    Which part of that development process would be eliminated by detonating a nuke? The wind, or the warm water, or the cool air? I admit I don't follow you on that one. And aside from the fallout, what would protect the vast amount of life in the ocean just from the percussion?

    Not talking about doing a thing sometimes stems from the known consequences.
     
  3. Dayton3

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    Then why did so many experts contemplate it seriously in the past?
     
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    Link?
     
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    I know enough to go by what NOAA scientists have to say about it over what you think you know. Heh heh heh
     
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    Disrupt the open wave that triggers it. Detonate in a location that cuts off the supply of cold air or detonate it in the ocean so that cold water wells up.

    I am not claiming it is a good idea. Only that it is possible. However, there might be a time or place where that is all worth the price. Like I said, don't stop discussing it and dismiss it out of hand. I keep thinking about us going to the moon. That was obviously impossible at that time with our primitive computers. Just think about Apollo 13 and returning to earth short of fuel after sling shotting around the moon. Can you imagine the difficulty of calculating that correctly given our computing ability at that time? A error of just a few second could have sent Apollo 13 into outer space with insufficient fuel to do anything about it.

    Besides, the discussion is fun.
     
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    I don’t know that to be the case. Could you verify such claim?
     
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    Being NOAA scientists in no way makes them experts on the effects of nuclear explosions.
     
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    This is the one thing out of all these posts that wasn't hilarious.
     
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    We nuked Japan twice and nobody had the cajones to call the USA dopes.
     
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    Which is why I never said it did. But it does make them experts on how radiation fallout will spread
     
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    True that.

    Trump is nothing more than a full time distraction machine.

    He doesn't actually do anything other than tweet and play golf.

    The trouble really are the people who are actually running the country.
     
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    What makes you think that? The U.S. hasn't conducted any open air nuclear detonations in more than 50 years. Why would any scientist today have any level of expertise on it?
     
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    Which is irrelevant because if detonated at the right altitude there would be no fallout. I wish you people would look up and see what "fallout" actually is.
     
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    Why would they know what the affects of radiation fallout has based on what radiation fallout caused decades ago? Did you really ask that? Take a moment to think that through before you waste anymore of my time.
     
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    Eastern New Mexico University. I was stationed in Clovis NM when I was in the USAF. A buddy had just crosstrained from missile maintenance.
     
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    LOL, you have no clue what a President does. He has China back to the table.
     
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    Buying Countries and Nuking hurricanes, Trump should have been a Texan!

    God Bless Trump!
     
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    Couldn’t agree more
     
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    You nailed it.

    Trump ran for the office for 1 big infomercial on " Trump Inc " ............ never expecting to win.

    Hoping he can spin the BS with distraction for 4 years

    He enjoys Rally's , tweeting, name calling and golf..........Man's got it made in his mind

    For the 1st time some people are listening to what he spews
     
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    He's no president....

    He's not doing sh*t but being a (dangerous) clown.
     
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    What's wrong with Texas? I like Texas.
     
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    They go to school and read books. :)
     
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