Disarming Security Companies in South Africa

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  1. scarlet witch

    scarlet witch Well-Known Member Donor

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    because it's not true, Apartheid was a system of separate development, they wanted to create homelands and invest in those homelands, develop them, trade with them. The ANC burnt down all the schools the Apartheid government built for black South Africans. The ANC were determined to destroy South Africa and now they have succeeded while stealing South Africa's future...hundreds of billions of Rand and running the country into the ground.. abandoning their own people to immense suffering.

    ps. In fact in hindsight, if the black South Africans were allowed to build their own homeland/country, like the Afrikaner built South Africa. Perhaps they could have taken pride in their achievement and would not have so easily destroyed it.
     
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    Well that is nazi hoax too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid

    Apartheid (South African English: /əˈpɑːrteɪd/; Afrikaans: [aˈpartɦəit], segregation; lit. "separateness") was a system of institutionalised racial segregation that existed in South Africa and South West Africa (Namibia)[1] from 1948 until the early 1990s.[note 1] Apartheid was characterised by an authoritarian political culture based on baasskap (or white supremacy), which encouraged state repression of Black African, Coloured, and Asian South Africans for the benefit of the nation's minority white population.[5] The economic legacy and social effects of apartheid continue to the present day.
     
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    I do not dispute this ^^^The Afrikaner built South Africa, in the end they did hand the entire country to the ANC and look what happened.... exactly what they told you would happen

    Instead they wanted to create the same for the blacks in their own homelands, and again if South Africa's blacks built their own country, perhaps they would have taken pride and not destroyed it, like they destroyed South Africa

    NOW, South African blacks are in a worse position, than they were during Aparhteid... they are going to die... and suffer while they are dying

    ps.. you should start Fundraising for them you know... they are going to need food and clean water

    The truth is if you really cared about black people you would actually care about the plight of these people.... instead of just hating on whites all the time
     
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    It wasn't just the blacks that toiled. Actually they were better off than the indentured servants since the owners knew that the servants would leave once their time was up, while the slaves would remain so they were taken better care of..

    Did you know that the great philanthropist Carnegie gave his workers only one day off a year; the 4th of July, and he had them working 12 hours a day. When Carnegie showed off his smog filled 'utopia' to a friend from Scotland, his friend replied that he had finally seen hell.

    Anyway it's much better working with governments to create a more equitable situation, than destroying a society and having black mothers crying over their sick and dead children.

    Think man, think?
     
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    That's a bunch of politically correct hog wash by those who were thinking of their own political expediency and could less about the suffering the blacks would encounter when competing in an alien culture as well as the Afrikaners who wanted to retain their heritage and standards.

    Instead of working with S. Africa and insuring that the Black homelands would be subsidized and developed, the UK and US imposed their own stupidities on them and destroyed the country. When the children start crying for a lack of food as they did in Zambabwe, blame the US and UK for their impositions on them, not the Afrikaners who just wanted to maintain their standards and way of life.
     
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    You did just parroted some nazi hoax that apartheid ment that it was a system of separate development. While it was a governmental system of racial violent oppression.

    Oh. Is there a new system racial violent oppression through law?
     
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    This is just nazi-like crazy unfounded nonsense



    Your well liked apartheid state did not provide any healthcare for black children.
    And they do got something now.
     
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    Oh you sure proved me wrong. lol
     
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    all lies ^^^


    South Africans are living in a war zone, because the traditional tribal system is broken. The Homelands system the Apartheid government wanted to bring in would have given the tribes their own territories and they then enforce their own laws.

    If there is a problem with a tribal member, you go to the tribal leaders and they sort the problem out. The Afrikaner knew this, they have been dealing with the black tribes for centuries.

    But no, the left-wing liberals knew better, it had to be a melting pot and now millions will die. And they are still clueless… they have no idea what they’ve done.

    And you ‘re not allowed to talk about this stuff… because they are right and everyone else is…xxx ( insert label here)
     
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    This is what the Zulu King had to say about the Afrikaner


    Zulu King Praises Apartheid regime
     
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    The Black homelands was not a continuation of apartheid, but would have been a solution to the oppression of the Blacks if it was worked out correctly - and it could have been if the US and UK did what was best for S. Africa instead of imposing their own ideologies on them.. The Blacks have to stop thinking of everything in terms of skin color, this is why I said the term 'race' shouldn't exist. It's always been part of human nature to want to live among people who speak the same language, look the same, and have the same values and standards.

    Anyway the Afrikaners are not stupid. They knew very well that if the Blacks in the homelands didn't prosper their own survival would be at stake.
     
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    Apartheid was better - Julius Malema on SA healthcare system


    His Grandmother went to a clinic built by Apartheid... now collapsing under the ANC
     
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    Oh you sure showed me. lol
    We all know what Mandela did for the totally deprived black community. That makes it so, that the oppressive white nazi's never did that.

    lol
    Sounds more like them nazi's wanted to build open concentration camps.
     
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    It would have been the best of nazi white South Africa, to keep what they made the black community through slaving them around. And ethnic cleanse them to an useless patch of dirt, uneducated, no funds... nothing.
     
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    Racism is good for the government, people should fight each other as much as possible. That way they will never go against government corruption.
     
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    I think any black person would rather be oppressed by the white people then brutally tortured and killed by African leaders (that is what they do with their own people).
     
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    I don't care what you think.
     
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    You're clueless... the homeland system would have given the blacks their own territories, where they can be "baas" they can be in charge, without destroying everything the Afrikaner built.

    Now you can argue... what about a black man and a white woman who wants to get married...

    These issues, like mixed raced couples, gay rights, transgender rights are issues you work on to improve your society AFTER you have secured the future of your people, after you know they will still have food and water and personal security tomorrow. What sort of ****ing morons are you people that you think you can have the perfect society right of the bat.

    You have to eat first and have clean water... this is basic survival ****
     
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    You are clueless about your freaking own country. Bantustan system you talked about was installed. Them white nazi's ethnically cleansed millions upon millions of black people to dump them into waist lands.

    You apartheid freaks never provided for the basics for the black community. You only took and made them suffer. It took Mandela to build houses and give access to millions of people. And that bill was at the expense of white progress. Hence you white people are so "annoyed".
     
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    I posted video's of Malema telling you Apartheid built a clinic in his grandmother's area. Baragwanath hospital in Tembisa was built solely for black people... and at the time when I was still living there, among the worlds best in head trauma... doctors from other countries would go to work there, it was renowned.

    But all of this is moot, because it's all collapsing, the health system, the bridges, infrastructure, transport, local governments, electricity, there are sewage running into the river systems and in the streets, many areas have no clean water OR no water and food shortages already predicted in a decade or so, will be an immediate certainty when they expropriate the farm land.

    Millions will die and the rest will work in Chinese mines as slave labour.... well done... good job... you've destroyed South Africa and condemned it's people.... now keep chanting your nazi chants and racism chants while millions die... because you don't care... the only thing that you care about, is sticking it to whites
     
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    It was build for WWII soldiers.

    Yeah... South Africa only worked for them white nazi's. It generated enough funds that they could use health care, infrastructure, water and sewages. And now them nazi's are made to share that wealth with black community, which means they only get 1/10th of what they were used to. But since the black people need so much more help to catch up, means them nazi's probably have to do with way less of that.

    I also noticed you quickly dropped that entire homeland thing,... since it was about ethnically cleansing millions upon millions of black people into the waist lands. Hence them farmers are being made to give up their lands.
     
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    Dunno what to say to that. Really.
     
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    :roflol: no wonder people just sit back and say whites deserve to die... because people like you spread so many lies and misinformation about;

    a) what really went on
    b) what Apartheid really was

    I'm dropping the homeland system because it's moot... the country is dead...the ANC killed it. Apartheid is not coming back. I'm happy to discuss and inform about what it really was because I lived it, I saw it with my own eyes. But I'm not delusional, the country is dead... game over, for everyone, black and white
     
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