Disney Pulls Plug on $1B Florida Complex

Nope. And they won’t move because they can’t afford it. My kids aren’t as interested in Disney anymore and at the rate they’re going the Disney name isn’t going to have the same magic for their kids.

Starwars isn’t Starwars anymore. The princesses sure as **** aren’t the same anymore. They’re just slowly killing off every franchise they have. Pixar is a hollow shell of what it was.

 

Wow! That bad! In 2019 BEFORE DeSantis become governor we were 2nd!

Sure... we STILL have all the illegal aliens any business would ever require to thrive. But this fascist idiot is intent on bankrupting the state.

 

It wasn't that many years ago that Florida was considered in the bottom 10 states.

 

Might want to check your timeline and research MCU phases and when it all went downhill. Disney has been a stake in the heart for Marvel. It’s not even debatable.

After Endgame was when it all went downhill. It was all written in stone up to that point. Disney owning MCU as that phase was playing out had zero to do with it, because their creative control was still limited. The roadmap was set through Phase 3. There was no plan afterwards and Disney just rode it out until then. That’s when they actually started making major creative decisions and it’s been a total cluster since Phase 4.

 

How old are you? Cause this is exactly how gay people were treated in the 90s and back. Trans people are the easy punching bag for the right. A new one always emerges when the heft of the previous one disappears. First it was black people, then the civil rights movement made that difficult. Then it was abortion and gay folks (aids panic) and general religious intolerance. Now that abortion is lost, and being gay doesn't have the impact that it does, it's the Trans folks turn in the bag because the Republicans always need a scapegoat to fear monger, alongside the seasonal 'invading immigrants' and caravans. Though I wonder how that'll work now that Biden agreed to change the first safe harbor agreement forcing people to try the Mexican Govt first.

 

Yeah. Everyone went after trans people out of no where it’s like they never existed prior, hehe. Nothing changed the past decade. /boggle.

No one started demanding language be changed. No one started demanding to use girls bathrooms or play women’s and girls sports. No one started injecting sexual ideology into kids programming, and schools. No one started winning Woman of the Year even though he had a penis. No one had trouble defining what a woman is before yesterday. No Catalyst? It all just happened out of thin air

Being gay is normal!!! Having gender dysphoria is NOT. It’s a mental illness and should NEVER be normalized. Same with all the other new ways certain people define themselves now. There’s nothing natural or NORMAL about groups of teen girls all identifying as something else at the same time. ZERO biological evidence or logic for what’s happening currently. Claims of “we’ve been here all along” is a total joke. Human race wouldn’t have survived this long. Also it’s strictly related to the first world. Not surprising that countries with little social media also have far lower identity/mental issues or don’t ever understand the concepts.

A man wearing a wig, makeup and a sometimes a beard, is NOT normal. That’s called a Drag Queen, or used to be, and it was reserved for the stage where it belonged, because it’s performance art. Often very entertaining filled with extremely talented people. The trans part of that was a tiny fraction. Often you didn’t know. Now you’ve got people identifying as cats. Mental illness abound.

 

You'd think?

Why is it "grooming" to show a movie with a gay character (especially when one assumes that all the other characters in the movie are straight) when being gay is a perfectly legal thing to be? Nobody here was intending to "glorify" anything any more than any relationship in any film is glorifying it. Is the presence of straight characters in movies always intended to glorify them or is it just an observation of reality?

Let's get this straight, "grooming" is when pedophiles lure children into their confidence so that they can eventually have sex with them. This is not happening here so please cut the crap!

The presence of the gay person was not even central to the film, nor was it anything to do with the reason the movie was being shown. It was being shown because of its focus on ecology which was the point of the lesson.

It is normal and legal. There are gay couples everywhere. They are not doing anything wrong. They are able to marry and form families and are a part of the fabric of our society. They are not criminals. They are tax paying citizens.

This response was far from a critique of the movie's quality and I suspect you know this.

Good, that's a start.

Again, she was not censured as part of a critique on the movie's quality. She was censured because and only because the movie had a gay character in it. Just as real life has lots of gay characters in it; innocently and legally going about their business and their lives.

Again, not even close to the reason she was censured and I suspect you know it. Please stop trying to dress this up as in anyway rational. It's not.

I see a 14th amendment case here. These actions would appear to be in breach of the US constitution. I hope somebody brings this case. People are either legal and equal or they are not.

 

Judging by the reactions to Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 and that this is eventually gonna lead into 2 more Avengers movies, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on all of this.

 

That's because you're older and just like with every other older person out there, everything always seemed better back then because you were younger and didn't care about anything but going to Disney World.

 

You really want to ignore the vast majority of MCU films being total bombs since Endgame? Spider-Man not included since it’s Sony.

Guardians 3 is literally an anomaly now. Thank god it’s good!!! Through Phase3 every single MCU movie was mostly a blockbuster. Ever since, barely. Now you’re shocked if anything with Marvel or Starwars is good. That’s crazy.

 

Sorry. I’m not old yet. But younger people might think Disney is good now because they have no frame of reference. They’re ignorant or paid social media shills. No way you know a single person who actually has been going there their whole life and says it’s better now. Avatar ride is an exception

**** tastes good if all you know is ****.

 

You might want to check YOUR timeline

Iron Man was released May 2008, Disney bought Marvel in December 2009.

Roadmap is entertainment talk for a "loose plan" there was nothing written in stone and, in fact, many changes were made after Disney acquired Marvel. For example there was no plan for an Ant-Man movie in the original Phase 1 plan...that was only considered because they now had the backing (and money) of Disney to do it.

 

Total bombs, you say? Hmmmm....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Marvel_Cinematic_Universe_films#Box_office_performance

Judging by the total box office results there, I'd say only 2 of the films actually did poorly, Black Widow and Eternals, both of which were just coming out while the pandemic was still going on. And Black Widow, which was supposed to come out in 2020, featured the main character whose story is already completed.

 

Younger people are probably less grouchy and are actively trying to have fun, you should try it sometime. And no, I don't know anyone who's gone there "their whole lives" because my friends have only gone once, maybe twice in their lives.

 

Nice Straw-man. I never made that argument. I said that the other groups were the primary focus punching bags. Trans people weren't part of the national conversation on such things. They were just the T in LGBT. There was also a semblance of common sense. Now you get people losing their minds cause a disney character happens to be gay, yet RockyHorror is a celebrated film, Mrs.Doubtfire, Victor Victoria to name a few that were 'acceptable'.

lol people were emboldened by the sucess of the gay movement, and wanted to be accepted as well. The horrors. Oh no, you have to remember to say she instead of he. Trans existence isn't an ideology anymore then anyone elses existence. They just exist, whether you want to acknowledge that or not.

Also, if you've been in a mall in a major metropolitan area, I would be money you've shared a bathroom with a trans person before. You just didn't realize it. IT's not that the trans person is using the bathroom, it's whether or not they can 'pass' and not be noticed, which is entirely on you vs that person.

I have no problem defining a women. It's not difficult.

Biologically it's a human, generally the ones born with "female" reproductive organs and has the predominate XX chromosomes.

Physio/psychologically speaking - it's a human who's brain is gendered towards the opposite biological sex.

The third part is those who are more a mixture of the two such as having XY Chromosomes yet having a womb for giving birth, or those born XX with male reproductive organs, or those born with both at birth and the doctors of the time make the decision on which way to go.

Mother Nature can be quite the scientist in the lab of a womb/test tube.

lol you really don't understand that every species has statistical anomalies do you? Is it really so far beyond the realm of belief that a brain geared to one sex has a body geared to the other? That's a bridge to far for you?

Its entirely normal because who gets to decide what's 'normal'? I was told that I wasn't 'normal' because I couldn't sit still or focus in school as a kid. I was told I wasn't 'normal' when I had a goth phase. I was told I wasn't 'normal' when some folks found out I liked going to Raves. Or Paintball. Or getting a tongue piercing. Or a plethora of other things that certain people thought wasn't part of the 'grain of society' and therefore must be isolated and persecuted until i conformed. Heck, I grew up in a church and both people inside it and those outside it said I wasn't normal due to my activities opposite to whichever side it was that day.

If the person is not harming anyone (and kids seeing a "man" in a dress isn't harming them) then leave them tf alone.

 

Yeah, people will flock to North Carolina or Georgia. Relocating would cost many multi-millions.

 

I have no idea. There is some business reason for killing the project. To kill it over personal ill will toward a governor is incompetent. Businesses don't do that. I think DeSantis has done Disney more good than harm.

 

Florida is a weird place for Disney anyway. Florida is for old people, not young families. They should take their business elsewhere if they can. I mean, packing up disney world and going somewhere else is easier said than done. I guess they went there for the weather and to have an east coast presence, but on a peninsula full of gators and geezers? lol... surprising it took DeSantis to tip things away from Florida.

 

Oh. I thought you were arguing that we were improving. Looks like you were just pointing out how low DeSantis can get us.

Yep! From 2nd to 12th in the less than 4 years DeSantis has been governor should get us to number 50th pretty quick. 52nd, if Puerto Rico and DC become states before the end of his term

 

The Free Folks of Florida clearly aren't on board with the sex grooming of K-3rd graders in school, and that seems to be a real problem for Groomer Disney. If that makes Disney want to leave the state, well, it's a free country.

 

Taxation is not based on gross revenue.

 

I am not making up any facts. I gave you the link where Disney profits are reported and in the last 5 years, the income state, their worldwide income statement, show net profits in the last four years. Another poster actually posted the net profits Disney has earned.

Again, you are not citing anything that has to do with Disney. Disney is not a public school for starters. Can't make that any clearer to you. Second, we are dealing with the workplace and and what private businesses do. All the polls you have shown is exclusively with public schools, not with entertainment.
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Disney Financial Ratios from 2009 to 2023.

ROI for 2023 was 2.46, prior year was 1.79, prior year was -1.72, prior year was 8.25, and the prior year was 18.69. So again, your claim is weak because return on investmet is even showing positive after the stock fell. We just don't have the latest figures yet to see if the upward trend is continuing.

Net profit from 2023 was 3.8%, prior year was 2.95%, prior year was negative 4.38%, prior year was 15.9%, prior year was 21.2%.

So, who is going broke again if woke. Even these ratiors don't agree with your socalled theory.

 

Except in nature, it does occur, naturally I might add. There are certain species of fish and amphibians who change sex because of their natural environment. So, why not apply to humans even with the help of medical science?

 

Sure. Disney is doing "great". That's why they are slashing projects and laying off workers.

• Disney “direct to consumer” lost $659 million.
• Disney streaming subscriptions dropped to 157.8 million from 161.8 million.
  
• 'Two of the three biggest box office bombs of 2022 were both Woke animated Disney movies'
  
• '“Strange World” was easily the biggest bust of 2022 and received the lowest audience score in the history of Disney animated films with a “B” rating.'
  
• Woke “Lightyear” 'came in third on the list of biggest flops in 2022 as it lost $106 million at the box office earning the lowest CinemaScore of any “Toy Story” movie.
  
• 'The common theme between these movies and the reason that they both lost more money than any other animated film in Disney history is the showcasing of woke ideology that permeates both films.'

'Interestingly, the top-grossing movie in 2022 was “Top Gun: Maverick” and the top two animated films were “Minions: The Rise of Gru” and “Sonic the Hedgehog 2.” All three movies stayed far away from woke ideology and focused on creating a fun experience for moviegoers.'

As Trans Women aren't really women, so Trans-entertainment is not really entertainment.

But it's a free country and they are free to destroy their name, brand, and the goose that was laying them golden eggs. And your free to pretend that everything is going marvelously for them.

They're essentially the Dylan Mulvany of Entertainment.

https://www.westernjournal.com/report-disney-lost-quarter-billion-dollars-two-woke-failures/