DJIA Closes over 24,000.

hey something we can agree on!

 

Show us where I asked that.

 

of course i answered your question...

 

is your name quantum nerd? ffs you can't even follow your own posts...

 

You replied to me, so show me were I asked that.

 

You didn't. You said that volatility can be profitable, which I acknowleged it can be, IF one can predict when volatility will be high and when it will be low. Can you predict that? That was my question.

My guess: People can predict volatility, as well as they can predict the ups and downs of the stock market: Not at all.

 

You were not talking about since 2016. Now you are moving the goalposts. Your comment was related to the recent move up from an oversold position.

Regardless. Trumps first fiscal year started in October 2017 .. not in 2016. Once again proving that you have no idea what you are talking about.

Then you blather on about Jobs. We are not talking about Jobs .. we are talking about the Stock Market. Since Trump took the fiscal reigns - Starting from the beginning of 2018 as that is when the tax cuts kicked in - the stock market has not done very well.

Further - only someone who is ignorant of how the stock market works attributes much of the market action to a President in his first year of office. I agree that there may have been an initial "Trump bump" on the basis of increased investor confidence but, the overall market is governed by many factors that have nothing to do with what the President does -- especially in his first year in office.

 

no. you don't get to move the goalposts. you said "how you make money using volatility?" you did not qualify your remarks. if you had asked me, for example, "how do you predict volatility," i would have given you a different answer. but as it stands, that is not what you asked me. now you're trying to backpedal because you want to save yourself some embarrassment.

herrm. ffs man you should really just bow out of this thread gracefully and stop pretending like you know what you’re talking about. this is getting hard to watch. here’s a hint... volatility and the “ups and downs of the stock market” are not two different things as you indicate above. volatility IS “the ups and downs of the stock market!”

you should probably stick to physics.

you act as if it's like throwing grenades over a wall. the hundreds of billions of dollars earned by hundreds of professional hedge fund managers handily defeat your "argument." don’t you claim to be a scientist? do you understand the concept of dependent trials?

 

delete dupe

 

you made a claim, another unsubstantiated one at that... it was about another poster, not about you. i replied to the content of your post. i never claimed you asked how to make money on a down market. ffs pay attention man!

 

chingler makes an assertion that I made a claim. He says now it was about another poster. The content of his post is way, way off.

But I thank him for admitting his mistake.

 

If I were you, I'd be very careful investing in something I don't understand. Volatility is a measure of the standard deviation of the market, i.e. the deviation from the mean of the average return. But, good luck investing in VIX. Maybe you'll make a bargain at times, then you can brag about it on the internet. Eventually, you'll make more losses, of course nobody will ever hear about those.

Me, I know what I don't know, which means that I know that I cannot time the market or pick stocks. That's why I invest in low cost index funds through buy and hold, mostly of the Vanguard variety. In all likelihood, I am going to be ahead of the stock pickers and market timers when it comes time to retire.

 

Just FYI, chingler is a she .

 

I will probably go back down since the democrats took over the house. It won't be as bad as under Obama's administration.

 

But what about what Bill Maher and other lefty loons are hoping for ?

Maher: I'm "Hoping" For "A Crashing Economy" So We Can Get Rid Of Trump, "Bring On The Recession"

Bill Maher said Friday that he is "hoping" for the bottom to fall out of the economy and for the country to enter a recession so we can "get rid of Trump." He said one way to do that is a "crashing economy." Maher said he is "sorry" if it hurts people, but rooting for a recession is a prevention measure to losing democracy.

"Can I ask about the economy because this economy is going pretty well? I feel like the bottom has to fall out at some point. And by the way, I'm hoping for it. Because I think one way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So, please, bring on the recession. Sorry if that hurts people, but it's either root for a recession .. or you lose your democracy," Maher said on the Friday broadcast of his HBO show Real Time... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._get_rid_of_trump_bring_on_the_recession.html

Bill Maher Doubles Down On Anti-Trump Recession Wish

Update, with video Bill Maher doubled down tonight on his hope that an economic recession might turn the country against President Donald Trump. During the New Rules segment of HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher tonight, the host directly addressed “anyone who went apeshit the last two weeks” since he first mentioned the recession-as-weapon in the battle against Trump... https://deadline.com/2018/06/bill-maher-recession-with-donald-trump-hbo-1202415907/

 

hey look everybody, quantum found investopedia!

omg we don’t buy index funds.

but you pretend that you do know which is so cute.

none of which has anything to do with my statements on volatility from which you are so sheepishly trying hide from.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ses-over-24-000.548908/page-3#post-1070090197

are you trying to now claim you didn’t claim “quantum nerd owns chingler.” ??

she. she claims. i am a woman.

are you denying that you said “quantum owns chingler”?? buddy it’s right there in black and white.

what mistake are you alleging i made? iow, what false claim are you making now??

 

chingler owns the claim, and there is no question that quantum nerd owns chingler

chingler is a he, right?

do you insist wrongly that "quantum owns chingler?" is not true

chingler is admitting again s/he does not know what is going on

 

my thread was, yes. the comment to which you referred was in consideration of the entirety of trump’s effect on the market.

awww, how cute. he thinks the president waves a magic wand over the srock market.

right. people having jobs to give them money to spend in the economy has no impact on investor confidence. boy what a beat down you just gave me! please stop. oh it hurts, it hurts!

once again proving you have no idea what you’re talking about.

please cite the post in which i made such a claim.

 

of course. they hate america so badly all they want is to see it fail. but we persevere and despite the last president's efforts to "fundamentally transform" the freest, fairest, most innovative nation the world has ever seen, (by which he meant make it like venezuela) we will not fail. we will continue to lead the world, and we will continue to have hordes of dirt poor immigrants arrive at our doorstep to become doctors, lawyers, business leaders, and even possibly in the case of the last guy, a president. lol, couldn't resist that last jab.

 

chingler seems triggered.

I will leave him/her to it then.

 

Huh? The market almost tripled under Obama to record highs. The trend continued the last 2 years.

 

It's utterly foolish to watch the market on a daily basis and then bragging every time it moves up that somehow it's a win.

 

what claim are you claiming i claimed?

and i say again, you mean the guy who had to ask me how you make money on a down market owns me. on what planet is that logical?

no i have tits. real ones. i use the ladies’ room, legitimately.

you’ve not even attempted to back up your horseshit claim.

hehe you think you’re so clever. you are the one who insisted i was talking about you when i clearly wasn’t... TWICE! you are the one who keeps insisting another poster to whom i’ve had to teach basic investing principles “owns me... “ TWICE! this is so amusing i have to believe you are joking. you are joking, right?

 

i agree. and that’s not what happened here.