Do we have another Trump Tower equivalent in the White House now?

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so just out of curiosity. If as accused, Biden was corrupt for using his official capacity to manipulate their government, what exactly it Trump doing ?
     
  2. struth

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    Nothing, having a conversation with a foreign head of state, supporting this election, and their ongoing investigations into political corruption.

    The investigation was reopened well before this call
     
  3. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Biden as the VP doing that is "corrupt".....Trump doing that is just a diplomat......OK got it. You utterly laughable hypocrisy is noted
     
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    So, investigating corruption is now corruption. Fascinating.
     
  5. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    Trump isn't doing that....he isn't withholding any money, nor demanding anyone be fired.
     
  6. ronv

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    Mr. Shokin was replaced by a prosecutor named Yuriy Lutsenko, whom former Vice President Biden later called “someone who was solid at the time.” Mr. Zlochevsky’s representatives were pleased by the choice, concluding they could work with Mr. Lutsenko to resolve the oligarch’s legal issues, according to the people familiar with the situation.

    While Mr. Lutsenko initially took a hard line against Burisma, within 10 months after he took office, Burisma announced that Mr. Lutsenko and the courts had “fully closed” all “legal proceedings and pending criminal allegations” against Mr. Zlochevsky and his companies.

    The oligarch, who had fled the country amid investigations by previous prosecutors, was removed by a Ukrainian court from “the wanted list,” and returned to the country.

    This year, though, Mr. Lutsenko’s office moved to restart scrutiny of Mr. Zlochevsky.

    The Times reported that Mr. Lutsenko had been communicating with Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who has become a leading voice in accusing the Bidens of corruption. And allies of Mr. Biden and Mr. Zlochevsky accuse both Mr. Lutsenko and Mr. Giuliani of injecting politics into the equation.

    Ukraine’s new government replaced Mr. Lutsenko last month.
     
  7. ronv

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    Release the report and we can make that judgement.
     
  8. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    But not before Rudy.
     
  9. struth

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    It’s been open over a year. Rudy wasn’t discussing the investigation into hunter Biden
     
  10. struth

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    We know because the investigation was open already , and the Ukrainian President said so
     
  11. ronv

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    This year, though, Mr. Lutsenko’s office moved to restart scrutiny of Mr. Zlochevsky.

    The Times reported that Mr. Lutsenko had been communicating with Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, who has become a leading voice in accusing the Bidens of corruption. And allies of Mr. Biden and Mr. Zlochevsky accuse both Mr. Lutsenko and Mr. Giuliani of injecting politics into the equation.
     
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    Just release the report. Easy peasy.
     
  13. struth

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    As stated it’s been on going. Rudy of course was discussing the issue of dnc/Ukraine collusion...there might be some overlap of Biden in that, given how he blackmailed Ukraine
     
  14. struth

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    I know the left would love to undermine the criminal probe into Biden, but that’s just not gonna happen
     
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    If you're going to quote an article, try providing the link so I don't have to go digging for it.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ukrainian-nightmare-a-closed-probe-is-revived

    The article I quote is from April. This has been going on the whole time, people are just now noticing it.
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    Lutsenko told me that, while reviewing the Burisma investigative files, he discovered “members of the Board obtained funds as well as another U.S.-based legal entity, Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC, for consulting services.”

    Lutsenko said some of the evidence he knows about in the Burisma case may interest U.S. authorities and he’d like to present that information to new U.S. Attorney General William Barr, particularly the vice president’s intervention."
     
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    Don't get to dizzy spinning, you might fall down.
    Just release the report.
     
  17. struth

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    Spinning what? This has been reported.

    You know they will not release publicly information in regards to on going criminal investigations,

    That of course is what you all want, and it’s a nice deflection from that
     
  18. ronv

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    They can do whatever they want with Biden.
    Just release the report.
    Why are you having such a hard time with this.
     
  19. ronv

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    I see your having a hard time as well.
    Just release the report.
     
  20. struth

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    Sorry the trump admin will not compromise and shouldn’t, an on going criminal probe here and aboard.

    Hopefully the dems aren’t dumb enough to nominate another person under criminal probe for their corrupt conduct in office
     
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    Absolutely true, the bidens committed crimes . Lefty blames Trump for exposing democrat crimes. Typical. And notice how they are accusing trump of the very thing they did. Its what they do!
     
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    Did he give Barr orders? Yesterday..... :roflol:
     
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    I'm more than willing to let any crimes fall where they will.
    Just release the report.
     
  24. struth

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    I’m sure he spoke to Barr...likely daily. Fail to see what that has to do with anything.
     
  25. ronv

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    Well, you said it was an ongoing probe.
     

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