Do you believe that Trump is responsible for the storming of the Capitol?

So confident that they are above the law that they released this video where there are at least two references to fighting.
Just on stupidity alone this family should never again be allowed anywhere near positions of power.

 

He didn't deploy the NG. Although he told his crowd that he would march with them, he didn't. He took his car back to the WH and watched it all on TV. If he had been any kind of leader he WOULD have called in reinforcement - but he didn't. Instead, he tweeted that he loved them.

 

I know this is an obvious truth, but it does need to be pointed out that this little army did not have a unified purpose, and a unified intent beyond marching there to show 'strength' and oppose the validation of the electoral balloting. And they did not all commit the same crimes and they are not equally guilty of the same crimes. There were leaders and followers. There were people who attacked, broke down doors, shattered windows, brought weapons and even planted explosives, and there were people who just trespassed and engaged in disorderly conduct and tossed some papers on a desk and grabbed a worthless souvenir of their 'victory'. There were others who just stayed on the steps outside and shouted slogans.

This is no different from BLM protesters, and rioters. Prosecutors need to use their discretion on what is worth prosecuting, and judges need to decide guilt and sentence. We have to be careful to not to shove them all in one box, and duct tape it closed and label everyone inside.

 

And from my perspective what I got from your response is that you fell for the marketing. Your position was crafted for you, and you feel comfortable inhabiting within it. When Twitter was relaying instructions for the marchers to descend on state and federal buildings in cities, you can't find believe it? It seems unlikely that folks on the left are going to agree that the use of twitter or FB or insta or any of the other platforms that allowed the BLM rallies, or the ANTIFA folks to coordinate their attacks on our cities as anything other than coincidence. And the fact that Twitter, Google, Apple, AWS et al are now actively culling conservative voices from the public square, well, that's just novel, huh?

Oh, and yet. I can think of a similar group, democrats used twitter, FB Gmail, etc to campaign to try to impeach a sitting president. Try not to forget that the internet isn't just run by liberals. Lots of things are stored in the ether.

 

Gosh. The pictures and the video from Andy Ngo sure haven't been debunked. Try harder, and don't rely on pet democratic party propaganda to assist you.

 

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

If you want to know something, try finding it out for yourself instead of having to rely on others to supply it for you. If you cannot find it yourself, you should ask yourself the hard question of why.

 

Agree. Thete no difference between breaking to store and stealing property and breaking to the Capitol Hill, stealing property and murdering police officer. Trump should pardon these people.

 

Are you saying there is no difference between murder and theft in the mind of Trump?

 

Oh? Apparently gov. larry hogan doesn't either. But by all means assume its just normal trump administration incompetence.

Odd new administration security policy if that is what it was, but I guess it was the admin's needed to do something after the fascist display at the Lafayette Square photo op.

 

Does Andy Ngo beat Reuters now?

 

I do not know what this means or how to take this post.

 

I struggled too. I'm thinking sarcasm and poor proof reading.

 

Knock the hell of em and I'll pay your fines !!!
Use second amendment remedies !!!
No , he would never incite violence ......He's the biggest thug of them all !

 

why is this terrorist riot chief hiding in a basement somewhere with authorities searching for him if he's such a great guy? lol
https://www.yahoo.com/news/stop-steal-organizer-hiding-denying-020833348.html

 

Truth? If Trump didn't see the 'clear and present' potential for a violent outcome, then he was recklessly oblivious in the speech to that large crowd of supporters.

He made a rambling, emotional, ill-considered speech... he didn't organize, equip, or fund an armed insurrection. Thus, it may be harder for Democrats to make a leak-proof case that he should be impeached and removed for that, specifically.

I'm not trying to 'cover up' for Trump. This was a really STOOPID thing for him to have had an active part in, and more than anything else, it shows how sadly 'wound up in himself' he had become since the election two months ago.

One way or another, or another, he'll be gone from the White House in nine days. And then we will see how Joe Biden handles things....

 

He got that right.

 

I don’t think Trump is legally responsible for what the crowd did, but I think he is responsible for it in the same way that bad parenting is responsible for bad behavior.

 

When all that is left are lame false equivalencies to defend the fascist insurrection, organized by, promoted by, participated in, by the President and his cronies, it can safely be said trumpists have reached their intellectual dead end. (granted it was a very short laneway)

As for the wailing and whining about social media censorship, it also becomes obvious that these champions of the constitution have no friggin' clue what freedom of speech actually means. Thanks for the glaring example.

Arrogant corrosive winners and even more pathetic losers.

 

He and his campaign DID organize the Save America Protest. They set the agenda, they mobilized their networks to encourage attendance, they KNEW what was going on with the various "bois" and other nice nazi scum supporters.

But I get how you just can't bring yourself to blame your dear leader. Its just another case of all those around him being corrupt and nasty and not doing what he wants them to do, or worse doing stuff and not telling him.

I do agree it was STOOPID of all trumpists. and its pathetic that so many americans are trying to protect the orange fascist cretin.

 

Video and analysis vs "shut up, racist"? Yes. Every day.

 

Well, you, for one, certainly don't understand it..... But, I suppose this will be the excuse you use to support Biden when he rips 230 from these forums.. Albeit for different reasons. But hey, you tried.

Here's something for you to figure out. When censorship hits you, who will you complain to? If, as it appears, the elite have no intention of listening to your concerns, then what? Perhaps being less myopic would better position you for the future. Just sayin.

 

Your evidence is about something totally different. It's as if I'm reporting Pearl Harbor and you reply with the sinking of the Titanic. Also the Reuters news service is about the oldest and most respected in the world, while this Ngo fellow is a barely known ultraconservative blogger.
The recognitions reported were of neo-nazis, the recognition software company themselves said this and characterized the reports of Antifa being seen a "totally false"

 

How gracious you are in victory....

I said Trump was "STOOPID", reckless, and oblivious. He will be gone in no more than another nine days and you should feel exultant!

Enjoy your Biden victory, too, rub everyone's noses in it who didn't vote for him, and, as Petruchio said famously in Shakespeare's "Taming of the Shrew",

Go to the feast, revel and domineer,
Carouse full measure to her maidenhead,
Be mad and merry, or go hang yourselves.

We've probably got about another ten years before this whole damned thing comes crashing down around our ankles anyway, so live it up -- ol' Joe will be sending out the two-grand on the first day after Inauguration! Be mad and merry....

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Very simple - you wrote "This is no different from BLM protesters, and rioters" and I agreed with explaining why:
"There no difference between breaking to store and stealing property and breaking to the Capitol Hill, stealing property and murdering police officer.".
Do you agree?

 

Sometimes people say things which for me does not make any sense, in a such case I agree with them clarifying the sentence.
This was my answer to "This is no different from BLM protesters, and rioters".