Do you believe the US should pay reparations to minority groups it has wronged in the past?

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Should the US government pay reparatioons to minority groups it has previousy wronged?

  1. Yes, it is imperative to make amends for past sins as the beginning of reconciliation

    3 vote(s)
    7.3%
  2. Yes, it would settle relations once and for all

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. No, this is absurd, every group has wronged another at some time or another

    27 vote(s)
    65.9%
  4. No, this is a "cracker tax" used as a bribe to make minorities vote for the DNC

    11 vote(s)
    26.8%
  1. Reasonablerob

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    Just watching the series 'Watchmen' where Robert Redford is the US president (how entertaining would THAT be!) and part of this alternate history is that the US government has paid 'Redfordations' to African Americans. Do you believe that should happen?

    Personally I say no, where would it stop? Should the people of Libya pay reparations to Baltimore for kidnapping their population into slavery? Should the Scandinavians pay money to those they raided during the dark ages?
     
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    I would vote 'no' but the way you worded the explanations is way off base. I do not believe that the payment of reparations will solve any problems or make anything better. Waste of major political capital as well as actual capital to push them through.
     
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    You’re options should have been “yes” or “no”.
    The rest of it is emotionally charged rhetoric.

    I voted no: zero people are alive today that endured slavery, it would generate tons of animosity and would be rifle with fraud.
     
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    Depends who the reparations are for, who they're being paid to, and how long ago the actions in question occurred.

    Reparations for slavery is a dumb idea. Nobody alive today was a legal slave under U.S. law(meaning they were a slave here when it was legal to own slaves).

    However, if there are situations where the government had entered into an agreement, and did not keep it's end of that agreement, than those should be made right.
     
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    Would an example you are thinking of be the hundreds of Native American treaties that were broken?
     
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    That is the type of situation I had in mind, yes. But I didn't want to be specific because I wanted to leave open the possibility that there have been other treaties and agreements that I am unaware of.
     
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    Justice would be sending all non-native American descendants, that is, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Jamaicans, Iranians, Muslims, et al, back from whence their ancestors came, and giving back all land within USA borders to the native American descendants who had the land prior to arrival of anyone from the Old World.

    Justice is unobtainable if people want to remain the USA.

    Get over it and get on with life.
     
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    No. I've never been considered responsible for the sins of my father.
     
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    I don't owe anyone anything for things i didn't do.

    Why do progressives want to always punish the innocent?
     
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    Minorities they have harmed? Like Native Americans, Chinese, Irish and African Americans?
     
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    The US Government occupied Korea in 1946. They kept the Japanese in charge. The US Government brought their puppet only to run, Syngman Rhee, his biography reads like a puppet, to be "presidunt'. America sided with the aryan brotherhood to make a deal with Russian bloodbrothers, to divide Korea in two. The ancient game of Chess was enjoyed by all in spectator sport, that killed over 3 million people in political purges of the countryside. Blacks then caused millions of damage in LA the Rodney King riots, called "Sa-I-Gu", taught $300 of damage to every single Korean trying to be American. That's why we need to Pay the African American! These claims need attention. Especially the 2/3rd compromise, because the South believes, they need Full Voter representation! In this instance! To draw districts correctly! 2/3rds a person?!
     
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    So do we determine who has ancestors that owned slaves and who had ancestors that were slaves? Do we acknowledge there were free blacks that owned slaves? Do we acknowledge many of the Cherokee tribe owned slaves? What about those that migrated to America after slavery? Should Illegal aliens be forced to pay as well? This is a very tangled web. Who gets it ad who pays?
     
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    Should native Americans pay restitution to all the wagons they burned, settlements massacred? or do you think Europeans had it coming? This is all about the 'Hate America Diatribe".
     
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    Where were the rich slave owners? OK Really, the TV antebellum plantation? Oil tycoons growing up after that? Mainly the States taxed this and a third of revenue was directy 'property taxes', and this was becoming some sort of United Slavery of America, and the South thinks Big Government was going to solve it again with Woodrow Wilson. OK go prove like Abraham Lincoln, we 'got all the blood out of the slavemaster that was whipped out of the slave'. I don't think so. What do People Think Happened all day, running through the forests and lynchings popping up everywhere, ah, run, chaos, stability, family correspondence, above average for American growth, and developed self-concept.

    Wait once again, having killed or maimed 1,000,000 of 2,500,000 million alive white males in this time of the Southland, and having Confiscated a Majority of their Wealth, as psot the 1960's at least, being only a Union politically representative government, Who are you Suing exactly in the government?
     
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    Not just No, but HELL NO.

    Chose last option.
     
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    Using that logic, you'll be having every native born American with ancestors going back to settlement times paying reparations to Natives for taking their lands, then raping and killing their children women and old farts.
     
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    We sorta got Squanto and Sacajawea , is there any variety between heroic saint Martyr and crazy scalping savage? My history is as spotty as unrealized assimilation of practices, the foundation of the Tribe Reserves, and they have a Surprising amount of land out west, we don't actually Own That Much of the contiguous United States.
     
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    "We" meaning who exactly?

    Everything within our borders is subject to Eminent Domain... so yeah, the Feds "own" the nation.
     
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    Duh, who you asking, by the way? Are you some sort of 'we all were immigrants' sort of liar, like I naturalized into the Iriqouis Nations? YAW! YAW! The United States of America as an established form of government of We the People, was aided by certain Indians, who are given coinage and significance, which are Squanto and Sacajawea.
     
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    If this is at me, I have zero clue WTF you're on about.
     
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    Well this is getting kind of frustrating. I hate these reply chains anyway. You know my first reply is that we Controlled the outcomes of the Koreans after World War 2 as defeated enemies just like the Japanese, which ended up with over 3 millions of direct deaths. Then you tell me about the foreign nationals getting reparations who were some Indians, who did the same thing they'd been doing for Thousands of years, traveling in tents, hunting buffalo, developed nothing for thousands of years, who were nowhere when Andrew Jackson decided to move them to these reservations, a few thousand Unchristian Uncivilized savages haunting the woods Scaring the progress of Alabama and Mississippi into true statehood by the way. They moved to reservations as the same, foreign nationals, and you know some foreign nationals should be treated to good relations, that's the subject of international relations.

    You asked who I meant by We, by default people who are associated with the United States I assume. I talked about whom we the United States promote as Indians. I don't know man.
     
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    Quoting people will help with your dislike of Forum Reply functions..
    Such wordsalad for a last 2 sentence incoherent blurb?

    Ciao.
     
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    ""We" meaning who exactly?" You asked who I meany by We. We the People, of the Constitution. By default, the people associated with the United States. My other post talked about who we promoted as Indian Americans.
     
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    The constitution didn't exist when we started taking the land.

    You're familiar with US History right?
     
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    The Indians made these trades, from their own testimony, trading a State of Land, for say a bead, or a rifle bullet, without any belief in ownership of land. The context of Feudal Europe definitely predisposes the arriver, to value the stonewall, the fencepost, the marker, the three-field system, the serf, count,duke, king, and parish.
     

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