Do you think the slaves were owed reparations?

we dont owe black people reperations for slavery.

such an attempt would be extremely polarizing and lead to the further detorioration of race relations in this country.

we need to unite as a people, the American people.

if we want to offer free college, healthcare, job training to the poor, so be it.

but enough with race-based crap

 

the Jews had that real-estate long before the Holocaust.

when will YOUR people give reperations to the Greeks, Serbs, Croats, Armenians, and all the other non-Muslim people that the Turks persecuted??????????

 

You obviously did not read my Post #844 in this thread... fair enough. But then DON'T expect me to 'reinvent the wheel" for you.

In that post, if your attention span is long enough, you might focus on this small portion. Emphasis added this time:

"... efforts on behalf of victims of the Nazi confiscations of property owned by European Jews before, and during the Holocaust were focused on the return of the contents of bank accounts, businesses, other financial instruments, real estate, artwork, jewelry, and other assets that could be traced to individuals and their families who brought action to secure the return of these assets after World War II.

Most obvious (in this process) would be the fact that ... the Jewish people had things they owned stolen from them before they were summarily thrown out of their home country, or later, into a concentration camp." There... got it this time?

Oh, and please pass along our regards to your buddy, @Primus Epic . It would be good to hear more of his entertaining theories about how Black Africans didn't sell other Black Africans into slavery (or was it the other way around?)....

 

yes idid read it which is why iresponded that so called african americans didnt own property. what was stolen from them was their names and 400 years of their life when they worked for the slave master and his "industrial revolution" but never received a penny in salary. its estimated that the cost is $75 trillion in unpaid salary. so if reparations were paid, belatedly, then this would be the sum. the argument against being that the claim is 100 years too late but had so called african americans had the power 100 years ago the White Jewish Europeans had 80 years ago then this sum of $75 Trillion would have been paid 100 years ago.

it was jim crow which helped delay this payment even further, to a point where so called african american claims were mocked and up until today where this topic has been revived.

 

If you imagine for one minute that anybody is going to hand a bunch of "descendants" of slaves 75 TRILLION DOLLARS just for the hell of it, you are thoroughly out of your mind.

And even if we were all really insane enough to try it, where would the money come from? Thanks to having to hand out so much government welfare, we're already in the debt-hole over 22 TRILLION DOLLARS, and, whether you want to believe it or not, Black Americans get the most of these welfare handouts on a per capita basis.

Tell @Primus Epic to come back and join us! I like his fantasies about ancient Egypt a lot more than this hare-brained idiocy about 'reparations' that should be paid to people who haven't lived in a country with slaves in it for over 150 years!

 

I bet 75 trillion dollars he can't explain that $75 trillion figure to us, much less why America is responsible for paying for 400 years worth of a institution it was only involved with for 90 years.

 

No. Feudalism was mostly a medieval European system.

 

First, the United States Government and the United States Supreme Court needs to issue a firm and authentic apology to the descendants of those who lived, suffered and died under Slavery in this country. Second, Slavery did more to create the "deterioration of race relations in this country" than any amount of reparations ever could. Third, you will never "unite as a people" when those people refuse to admit a moral wrong and who perpetuate that same moral wrong by another name: Discrimination. Fourth, the "poor" were not enslaved. So, offering the poor "free" education as an alternative to the proffer, trivializes the causation of the proffer itself and imputes the same need for moral injunction on behalf of those who were never Slaves. Lastly, "race-based crap" is precisely what caused the problem being discussed in the first place.

Descendants of Slaves hear me well:

You control $3.5+ Trillion of United States GDP as of 2009, according to the last time I researched the number. That number must be larger today in 2019. Take your best and brightest, organize an Economic Consortium, then go build an economic base consisting of every successful major industry on earth. Connect your brothers and sisters in Africa to that economic based and then expand that base world wide. THAT is how your pay yourselves "reparations."

Stop sitting around waiting for an immoral nation to do the impossible. It is impossible for the United States to do the right thing. When has the United States ever done the right thing by you? When will you learn that your destiny is now and always has been directly under your collective control? There is not a single successful Business Model or Industrial Business Model that YOU cannot collectively replicate and manage a thousand times better.

So, what the hell are you waiting for? Jesus to return? That ain't gonna happen. He was never real to begin with, so waiting around for the Great White Hope to bail you out is futile and vagrant dumbness. Stop the futility and start the Economic Developmental Revolution that will most certainly SAVE your a-s-s. Be the Savior. Be the Messiah. Be your own best hope. Become the Economic Empire that strikes back for once. You've got all the resources you need, intellectual and material. But, you lack Unification and that is your most fatal flaw. There is no excuse for failing to build and innovate your way out. Be more like your Ancestors.

Your Ancestors built this yesterday:


Your Brother built this today:



Architect David Adjaye, Tanzania, Motherland (aka "Africa"):


Why seek reparations when you can do this?

MAGA = Make Africa Great Again

 

Reparations who?
Why seek the Living among the Dead?

The "Living" future. Dakar Senegal, Motherland (aka "Africa"):


Pick the Industry. This could have very well been its World Wide Corporate Headquarters.
Yet, you seek the "reparations" when you have this kind of power well within your hands already. What sense does that make, Black People. Wake up.

 

Reparations my a-s-s.

From this:


To this:


All architecture and all design by Black People spanning thousands of years from the Motherland to the United States. Stop believing the negative hype about your potential and GO build something Epic, Black People. You've been doing it for Millennia.

 

Reparations? How about start coordinating with your intellectual based and bootstrapping yourselves instead of seeking the impossible from the immoral.

Duke University Chapel:



Julian Francis Abele, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, 1881:


Yes. Another Black Man behind the work. Your Ancestors invented Architecture. You've got $3.5 Trillion at least. What are you waiting for. Hell to freeze over before you make your move?

 

Reparations???

You already have the baseline companies for a new economic strategic initiative that unifies around a singular purpose with a global view of the future:

https://www.pistongroup.com/


Who's behind it:


One of your brothers, that's who. Combine forces and GO BUILD something Epic, Black People. Clearly, you are more than capable and clearly, you've done it before.

 

Completely and utterly dispensing with the notion that "reparations" should be your focus. Building a Global Economic Empire should be your ONLY focus at this time and to the exclusion of everything else that does not support that aim.

 

Yes! Agree completely! MAKE AFRICA GREAT AGAIN -- by taking everything you learned from Caucasian and Oriental civlizations, and MOVING yourselves BACK to Africa -- PERMANENTLY!

If what you want a totally Negro-centric culture, exclusive of anything having to do with any other race, then, please -- GO!

 

There's your famous brainlessness!

 

Unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed means equal protection of the law where it matters under Capitalism.

 

This topic topic is many pages long and that comment was not recent

 

the Turks, your people, owe reparations to the Armenians, Greeks, Serbs, Croats, etc.

time to pay up!!!!

 

I read black nationalism and black seperatism in your comments

Its true that black slaves were mistreated and that was ended

Today the desendents of slaves are the luckiest black people on the planet because they were born in the greatest country on earth

 

Equal protection of the law is equitable.

 

giving reperations to people who's great-great-great grandparents were slaves, is insane and stupid.

there is no precedent for such a ridiculous idea, and its just sad and lame

and no, a child of a Holocaust survivor cannot seek reperations on behalf of their now dead parent.

 

Right wingers call ANYTHING THEY DONT get as well, REPARATIONS.

And whether or not they were OWED, has no bearing to reparations now.