Doctors group says heterosexual marriage better for kids

You are seriously damaged and dangerous.

I strongly suggest all children under 18 and all people with IQs under 100 stay away from you. Everyone else will see what a moron you are.

 

Define "equal start" and "normal life". I have not seen one study that conclusively shows gay couples cannot raise children to the same extent other couples can. I have seen a study that actually said reverse - gay couples do better, but whatever.

That is both total nonsense and highly offensive. Actually the reason why ANYONE gets a kid is varied and complex and to simplify an entire group of people's motives and desires down to 'sex drive' just shows not only your absurd understanding of such issues but also your appalling prejudice.

You dont have to be. Whether you are ok with it or not is beside the point.

 

Prove it.

Sorry but you made the claim - YOU need to prove it. Right now we are all looking at this comment for the complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*) it is.

So you think homosexuality is entirely socially contrived? Please also prove this. You would be the first to do so.

 

Sorry dear, but you're an extremist nut, with absolutely no knowledge of psychology or any common sense!

Do you think all the gay people had gay parents?

And your statement "Have you EVER heard of a child adopted by gays that has grown up straight?" is so ridiculous, that if it wasn't so sad, I would really laugh my head off.

Yes, I've heard (and know) of children (adopted or natural) raised by gay parents who have grown up straight! In fact, I only know of ONE who was gay with gay parents. . .and it's probably because he was put in a foster home because his natural parents were abusive (emotionally abusive, not accepting that this young teenager was not developing as a macho red neck), and was later adopted by a gay couple who gave him the non-judgmental love and the family he never really had.

I would suggest you watch this video. . .if you dare!:

 

AMEN! That kind of bigoted attitude is truly dangerous to weak minds. . .and it probably is instilled by weak minds!

 

I think we need some truth here.
1: as stated by others, there is nothing "Natural" about marriage.
2: Christian marriage was not started until around 300 AD
3: Christian marriage was first put up by Saul of Tarsus, better known as St Paul. St Paul, born a Jew and educated as a Pharisee, St Paul was actively involved in the persecution of the early Christians and was present at the stoning death of the first Christian martyr, within a year of Christ’s crucifixion. From St Paul onwards, Christians were urged to be chaste and practice self-denial. Sexual orgasm was condemned as a loss of self control. Men and women were told that sex was a manifestation of physical as well as spiritual illness.
Christians, were urged to strictly adhere to St Paul’s edicts on the “bondage of the flesh”.
However life expectancy was only around 30 years of age and the number of Christians was dwindling, so what could they do?....
The response was a decidedly worldly one. Christian marriage was created as an acceptable ideal for the expression of lust and fornication. And from that point on, Christians have adhered to the principles of marriage between a man and a woman.
Never mind that much of these customs were antithetical to the second principle of the ministry of Jesus - love thy neighbour as thy self.
Don't forget, St Paul never met Jesus so was not too interested in the Love thy neighbour stuff.
Consistently polling shows Australians support gay marriage. This underlines our basic instincts of fairness and social equity or as Jesus would have put it, “Love thy neighbour as thyself.”
4: Marriage has changed constantly of the centuries.

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Those two quotes are from http://www2.hu-berlin.de/sexology/ATLAS_EN/html/history_of_marriage_in_western.html

It seems to me that governments and the churches have continuously changed marriage rules to suit their own agendas. Nothing to do with love or children.

 

I forgot to say: Your post is not only ridiculous and offensive, it is also based on a lot of assumptions that are, as are your ridiculous "outrage," absolutely WRONG.

I am a heterosexual woman, married almost 41 years to the same man, step-mother of two adult sons, mother of an adult son, adoptive mother of a daughter. I have 8 grand children.

And I am happy to be an ardent supporter of gay rights. And if one of my grand children was to discover he or she was gay, I would be 100% supportive of his/her bringing home his/her partner. I would just be happy that he/she found someone to love.

I do not believe that love fares well when it is "conditional love."

 

Well said and congratulations on 41 years of marriage. 8 grandchildren you must be a busy woman lol, I have only three and I'm run off my feet.

 

Thanks, but unfortunately, mine don't live close to me. . .two: Two in Colorado, two in Arizona, and two in Australia!
I do miss them!

 

Sure, I am a moron. With two university diplomas, some publications and 159 IQ and I can prove it with the necessary documents. Every moron on the planet can do better. And of course I am dangerous, because I am telling the truth as it is, but not as some people want to hear it.
I have views and am not restrained by the fierce gay opposition here to express them freely. I have made claims and don't feel obliged to prove them to you. Since I am not charging you money to believe, do it your way.
Enjoy your 41 years long marriage and your chidlren and grandchildren and let the future generations judge our today's decisions. All I said is simply that I will not be part of that moral destruction and will always oppose it as much as I can.

 

Well I have three university degrees. Biochemistry, Human Neuro anatomy and Human Biochemistry. A few pubs and haven't bothered to have my IQ done.
When I was 24 I married a woman and we remained together until she passed away about 15 years ago. We had two children and I have 3 grandchildren.

So if quals are what you want, well I have them, and I support people being allowed to marry whether they are gay or straight. After all, any educated person would understand that the marriage of gays IS NOT going to increase the number of gay people, cause an increase in pedophilia, nor cause a sudden increase in the number of perverts (most claiming to be straight) hanging around park toilets.

The only people bothered by gay marriage are homophobes, and we all know a lot of them have latent homosexual tendencies that they are hiding.

 

Go ahead and express your views, but your diplomas, publications and IQ mean nothing if you cant substantiate your claims, which are big claims btw. Dont expect the opposition to be anything less than fierce when you make such claims. We are all waiting for the evidence to support them.

ps. you can be a professor anything and still be a moron.

 

Good on you. I was born and raised in Europe, where with small exceptions like Netherlands, people are generally much less tolerant towards the gays as they are here and in the US. You can easily verify this claim online. That is probably based on some conservative views and I tend to believe it has its support somewhere back in history. I am not sure where you picked the topic about marriage from. I am generally opposing the adoption. As somebody said here, the marriage is basically a document and nothing else. I don't carry much if the gays can marry (well, still against, but not that firm). I am against the adoptions of children by gays and I said it a few times already. My opinion is mine and could be wrong. But since the history there is very short, it is too early to tell. I believe it won't be wrong and that's why I deny to take part in this process. Moronic, you think? As much extremist expression than the one you are trying to oppose.
As to the hidden homosexuality, sadly I will have to repeat again: I am fine with it and have never had even the slightest hesitation about that.
And by attaching me personally, do you think that will change my views? Convince me? What do you expect? If it is something like "stop writing on this topic", just say it so I will leave the party to the gays only.

 

You have a responsibility to prove your claims about the inferiority of gay relationships in relation to children.

Furthermore you didnt address my point that marriage has nothing to do with children - you can be marriages and not have kids and vice versa.

 

I never attacked anyone personally, the argument I am hearing about gay marriage is that they will then be able to adopt kids, sorry, they can already do that.
Other arguments are that our parks will be full of marauding "Hommos", that it will somehow change our view of other married couples, and finally, that heterosexual couples make better parents just because they are heterosexual is garbage.

This thread appears to be based on medical opinion, but it is not, rather on the opinions of a radical Christian group, which by the way the AMA says is SCIENTIFICALLY WRONG.

My mention of credits was in response to yours, more to show that it means nothing. My 96 year old father left school in year 5, he was 15 years old and never attended another educational institution for the rest of his life. But I tell you something, he is much smarter then I, or from what I have read, many people here.

 

I don't feel necessary to respond to every idiot with a keyboard and internet access that will ask for more just for personal satisfaction. Not enough time to do that. It is your responsibility to understand the posts of the others and build your opinion based on the information already provided to you.

But will make this exception for you. If you have chosen the way of a homosexual, you should be aware of the consequences and particularly the one that you cannot have children. If you need children, that contradicts with the basics pof the homosexuality, so you'd have to decide which side are you on.
I fight for the children put for adoption by gays, not against the gays as such. For me those people are a lost cause, but the children are not.

 

Where have you provided any information? Sorry mate but I actually think you are lying about your academic education. Either that or your place of education was one of the worst. Any academic knows they must substantiate claims they make - its the most basic level of critical discussion, the burden of proof. You have provided no evidence to substantiate your anti-homosexual claims. When you talk about idiots with a keyboard I can assure I am not one of them. I have no responsibility to find information for you - that's YOUR responsibility because YOU made the claim.

 

Think whatever you want about my education. That is not my problem.
I have said enough. If you need proofs - the internet is yours. I have made the claims, but you are the one who wanted proof. So, go and find them.

 

I dont need proof - it is well known there is nothing wrong with children who have homosexual parents.

Ok, so in that case I dont proof, you are just full of (*)(*)(*)(*). You clearly are lying about your "education." You wouldnt get past the first semester of an Arts degree at Melbourne Uni with that kind of thought process.

 

I despair when people start making claims about their education on public forums.

 

From my experience its just a smoke screen people use before they run away from debates.

 

Get off your high horse knivd. . .you are not impressing anyone, in fact, most people who are secure in themselves do not need to flaunt their degrees or, even less, their IQ!
And no one cares about changing your view, but I certainly will not let stupid, prejudiced comments that are absolutely devoid of facts remain unchallenged.

And, as a person born and raised in Europe, I know for a fact that there is a lot more acceptance of the gay life style in most European countries as there is in the US. In fact, most EU countries DO recognize gay marriage and adoption by gay couples.

Now, keep your prejudices and your false illusions about Europe, no one will mind if you continue to spew bigoted stupidities, (like the statement about EVERY kid raised by agays will be gay! Duh! Are you sure you didn't add the "1" to that IQ measurement?), but don't expect not to be called on it.

 

And here is a link that will demonstrate how wrong you are about most European countries' attitude toward gay rights:

 

Ok, I am REALLY stopping with this topic after this post. There is really no need to continue anymore. Now, considering how cool you are, you showed me a thing or two, convinced and converted me and I am entirely pro-gay or whatever you call it there. Is that what you wanted to see? Now you all can sleep well or engage with the gay-relevant activities, I guess...
I only wonder why I am bothering responding at all... there is only one little detail about gays and I said it somewhere. No matter how cool your are, it is abnormal. stop.

 

So can you leave now, or do we have to endure your pointless presence longer?