Doctors group says heterosexual marriage better for kids

Typical ultra conservatives are extremely shallow in all aspects of life and ideals. Egocentric, ethnocentric, bigotted, sadistic, super hypocrital without shame or reflection. Money is the measure of success, without regards for the real fabric of life. Freedom means control over others. Feel the need to have one up on others to maintain self worth. Hyper sensitive to the progress of the jones'. Money keeps them civil, not love for man kind! The Obama's of this world have no rights to be in position of authority in this world, because black people aren't supposed to be that smart. Gays and Lesbians aren't able to raise normal kids because they aren't normal citizens. This is how superficial and disgusting people like you are. You are an utter disease to society, without any humanity at all.

 

The arguement isn't if marriage is natural or not.

Its if homosexuality is natural and if homosexuality is natural we would have observed it in nature, now homosexuality spans 2 to 3 % of all adults so are you saying the other 97 or 98% have got it wrong?

Homosexuality is a sickness full stop.

Do you consider phidephilia normal then, cause i bet my bottom dollar a gay man wouldn't think twice about having sex with a minor boy as long as the boy consented.

Is this ok with you too then? cause i recon it stinks.

Phedophilia and homosexuality both a sickness that need treating.

About briniging up kids i have brought a few up and i can tell you that the first influence children have is from their parents, do homosexual couples bring up homosexual kids i would dare say that the children infleunced by the homo parents have a better chance of being homosexuals than not.

Excactly where is your evidence that homosexual parents are better for children or are you just talking sh!t to pass the time away.

If you need proof then so do I.

 

Read the earlier posts, and here is some more for good measure.

Just cause you might think its fashionable to support gay rights.

What next will you also support pedophiles to bugger young children as well

 

So what was the reference to mother nature about?

LOL Homosexuality is quite common in nature. There are hundreds of species that utilize it quite thoroughly. When you say "natural" what do you mean exactly? Saying only a small group of people are homosexual does not make something unnatural - it just makes it uncommon. Its the same as extreme intelligence. Its estimated that around 2% of every human population consists of genius human beings. Does that make high levels of intelligence "unnatural"? If natural means 'occurs in nature', then homosexuality is VERY natural.

Define sickness.

No, it is not "normal", but that's operating on the idea normal simply means, the most common traits.

That is both highly offensive and not even worthy of a response. Its fricking weird you fantasize so much about gay men and their having sex with children.

Again I dont care what you think. As far as most people are concerned what you think is just plain retarded tripe.

Why do they need treating? Tell me what is wrong with either?

You can dare say the world will explode tomorrow - doesn't mean (*)(*)(*)(*). Unless you have evidence to support your claim, it is worthless.

The study I read was: Fiona Tasker, ‘Same-Sex Parenting and Child Development’ in Journal of Marriage and Family, Vol. 72, No. 1, February 2010, (pages 35–40).
The only online source I can find is here:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-3737.2009.00681.x/abstract

Well there's the study I was talking about. Now give evidence for your claims. I doubt you can.

 

Well i think you should study the human anatomy you will get your ansers there.

Yeah the ones that use it have gone the way of the dodo.

Would you care to give some examples of homosexuality in nature?

Its in the dictionary

Well then i would hate to be the one to tell 98% of the people on Earth they have it all wrong, i'll leave that up to you ,good luck.

Oh yes i see them everynight in my dreams - reality check pal.

Makes two of us.

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Well there's the study I was talking about. Now give evidence for your claims. I doubt you can.[/QUOTE]

One study makes 98% of us wrong? Are they gay these people?

My ecidence look ate the world and the people in it, if 98% are hetros and 2% are homos what does that tell you.

 

BOOM! There goes all your credibility on the subject. You really aren't fit to be discussing anything about gays. I know quite a few gay people and they are normal as can be except for their sexual orientation. Being gay does not automatically make you a pedophile. That is truly a perverse thought that betrays your ignorance on the topic.

 

I dont want to study the human anatomy I want you to answer the question. If you cant do that say so.

LOL You really are an idiot sometimes. No they are thriving and entirely stable. Here's an article. Hey look it says there's over a thousand:
http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx

See above. You have no clue what you are talking about and it means you are going to be seriously humiliated.

Give me a definition. You use the word, define it.

Sorry, what? I dont understand where the "right" and "wrong" difference came from or how its relevant.

Seems like you have a real problem with gay people. Why do you think so much about gay men and small children? You're a strange man.

Difference is I dont voice my unsubstantiated drivel like I expect others to care.

So you cant answer thew question? Dont worry mate, you're the one fantasizing about gay men, sex and boys. You're light years ahead of me in the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up department.

So let me geuss you will now proceed to run away? Typical. Unless you have evidence to support your mindless drivel your arguments are worthless.

LOL Read the study. There is no such thing as "right" and "wrong" in this discussion - you've just thrown it in from your ignorance.
Read the study. It says that a valid survey of gay parents showed stable and happy homes that were of a more stable and more productive quality than heterosexual homes. As far as your right and wrong bs is concerned, its your problem. As long as the children in each grow up in a way they can harness the full capacities of their abilities, all parental arrangements are fine - even polygamous ones.

It tells me there are 2% homos and the rest are not - and nothing else. This statistic is totally irrelevant to your other claims about kids growing up gay and strange under gay parents and that it is "sick". Just admit it the fact you have no evidence and you're talking (*)(*)(*)(*). Don't waste my time. I realize you aren't the sharpest tool on the shed, but if you are going to make claims about gay people that are so negative you have to have evidence to back them up. So please, to spare you more humiliation, because I can raise a torrent of intellectual (*)(*)(*)(*) that will destroy anything you say, and save me some time, let me know if you can actually substantiate your claims with evidence. Otherwise there is no debate to be had here.

 

I'd like to know what "phidephilia" is, getting sick from eating too much philadelphia cream cheese maybe?

 

Fishing fishing ohh no bite bad luck , no more need be said.

RUBBISH who is the presenter some homo i bet, i love animals and know quite abit about them, while they have strong bonding ties to a homo it may appear to be a homosexual tendency.

Male lions dont pork each others gelati hole.

Your kidding right.

Look it up yourself.

No wonder your defending pedophiles.

Its wrong no matter what malarkey you try to come up with.

Could have fooled me, whats all this dribble then, what your in favour of homos and pedophiles.......................

Sorry dude i'm not the one thats sick.

What can we say about some one who champions homos and pedophiles?

Please like i told you i knwo about the animal kingdom and dont need to see it from some homos perspective.

So then in your eyes 2% is correct and 98% is wrong hhhmmmmnnnn.

Show me examples of kids that homos have reared and they are normal?

 

Yeah I thought you were talking out your ass. Shame you couldnt admit it.

Bet all you like - it isnt.

1. If you think the article is scientifically unsound present counter evidence
2. You are clearly not an expert in anything and if you are you can address 1.

I already responded. No I am not kidding.

No, since I already know homosexuality is not "sick."

...?... Could you actually address the discussion and not blather on about some irrelevant nonsense? Obviously not.

WHY IS IT WRONG?

Seems you are on your last stilts.

Yes, you are.

So basically:
1. You have no more arguments
2. You cant engage in debate
3. You cant present any evidence
4. You cant even address the scientific flaws of the studies you say exist within the information I have given, yet you call yourself an expert! haha

Run along mate, everyone cna see you've, to put in terms you'll understand, been ripped a new (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

I knew you'd resort to childish antics, although I'm surprised it was that quite. You couldn't sustain an argument without using insults and like all the other homophobes around you could not present one piece of evidence, but it was quite funny and at least I have humiliated you enough to show everyone else why you should be avoided on such discussions.

 

You're up late tonite champ....welcome back...

 

Yeah I'm writing my final essays... and procrastinating. I should probably get to it now.

 

Not that you'd believe me but I know a girl who was raised by lesbians and she is straight and a normal person. You really are embarrassing yourself tonight, dumb. I think you need a break from this forum and go live in the real world for a while.

 

Bravo and thank you!!!

 

The destruction comes from your lies and unreasoning hatred. Own the damage.

 

So, no proof. I thought so.

 

Whos talking out of their ass LOL, you come on here defending homos and pedophiles saying they can raise children just as good as hetrosexuals have you got qualifications in this area? Or are you just having a breather from whatever your doing and just talking out of your ass.

Says who you, like i ssaid champ animals have strong ties and bonds that to a homosexual could be taken as homosexuality but it aint.

Like i said before male lions dont ream each others behinds, neither do male killer whales etc etc, ist a whole lotta garbage but i guess thats the only thing that is at your disposal to defend homos and pedophiles garbage.

OOHHH and you are the expert right, you present some homo with his homosexual thoughts on the anumal kingdom and everything is settled then what a joker.

I'm not either, might want to tell a few more of your gay friends to come on here and back you up.

How have you studied the sciences and come to a conclusion because the medical fraternity are not all united about this subject.

Are you a doctor?

Good but homosexuality and pedophilia are like a jok strap on a bum, plenty in common dont you think.

Like i said previously its not natural to shaft an ********, take my advise and study the human anatomy you might reliase what goes where.

psycologist as well then.

There aint anything funny about homosexuality or pedophilia my mate.

Get back to your studies dude and leave your debating fro the classroom.

One more thing dude 2% of population is not going to dictate to the other 98% on what is right and wrong.

 

I remember Penny Wong and Joe Hockey talking about marriage equality on Q and A, I reckon everyone should watch it:

[video=youtube;qPSpkgrfZOU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPSpkgrfZOU[/video]

 

I doubt they would accept polygamous marriages. I suspect they are as superficial in their desire for "equality" as most people. Democracies have a real problem of trying to obtain a "fashionable" sense of justice - what is best for everyone is what we can convince the majority of voters is good. I see hardly any discussion about actual political principle or ethical thought - just opinions and "values."

 

You need a qualification to determine the truth of ethical dilemmas? Ha that would leave you in the dust quite quickly. You dont need "qualifications" what you need is evidence - and what's more important is that I have readily available evidence to prove what I say. I see you have none at all.

Sorry mate but the thing about come backs is you cant use the jokes the other guy uses. It makes you look lame and incompetent.

Prove it. Furthermore show that what was described in the article is not homosexual activity. You cant just say it isn't without scientific evidence. Explain, in depth, the true character of the activity. Homosexuality means animals from the same species having an attraction, either physical, psychological or both to the same sex. Are you saying this is not what the animals in the article are doing?

Prove it is garbage. If you think the TRUTH presented here is false, show us all how it is so.

I have come to a conclusion because the overwhelming body of data, study and research on the subject shows homosexuals can raise children perfectly well.

Do I have to be?

How are they similar?

Why not?

Never had anal sex with a girl eh?

Since you're at that level of thought, yes I'm a psychologist, a zoologist and a doctor.

Why not? I think they are incredibly funny - especially because they make people you make complete buffoons of themselves!

LOL You got owned.

Seems they are, most Australians increasingly favor gay people being allowed to marry. So hey, its only a matter of time.

 

Ziggy why should 2% of the population dictate to the other 98% on how we should view them?

If they dont like the morals and standards of the 98% then they should sit down and shut up.

 

Sorry pal your debating falls in a heap.

And no amount of this crap will ever change the majority of peoples views on homosexuality and pedophilia.

Marriage is between a man and a woman, a family is a man and a woman and their off spring.

You can go on as much as you like, but 98% of say this is the way of it.

As for the other 2 percent that need medical treatment for their condition i dont really give a (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Of course the marriage act is about opinion and values, and of course in a democracy "what is best for everyone is what we can convince the majority of voters is good". And if polygamists, or incestuous relationships, or anyone else, want their own reforms to the marriage act, they need to mobilise some political activism and convince the majority that should happen. That's the whole point of democracy. And equality in the existing marriage act to include same-sex relationships is a different issue to decriminalising bigamy. Frankly polygamy would be a legal nightmare imo.

 

They're not "dictating" anything:

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/new-poll-backs-samesex-marriage-20120213-1t1h4.html#ixzz1xAkuow1Q

 

Well finally some sense out of you, i agree.

But at the same time these minority groups shouldn't be dictating to us either.