Does Corinthians 11:14 perpetuate a stereotype?

Is every Church going man with short hair a good example of Christian values? Is every man with long hair a drug addict and or ex-con... or worse?

How many Christians go to Church on Sunday then are viewing porn on Monday? How many Christians smoke pot from time to time? How many married Christians lust for another?

I know a Christian who smokes pot and goes to Church every Sunday... ok that can be misinterpreted... he does not go to Church stoned, but on Friday night or Saturday he has been known to partake of the weed. I know a different man who has a stockpile of Playboys, is married, and views Internet porn... I assume behind his wife's back. The man is a well respected business man, a member of the Chamber of Commerce, active in his Church, and a member of a couple of civic groups. I wounder how people of his Church or the civic groups would view his use of porn? I know another married Christian man who loves to check out the ladies and comment on their nice "rack" while his wife is not around.

Now me, I am not a Christian but I am married... and I have long hair. I do not use drugs, I do not use porn, and the only "rack" I am interested in checking out is that of my well endowed wife. But because I have long hair I have been stereotyped by Christians my whole life. Do you have any idea how it feels to be judged by others whom have much to be judged on themselves? The man I spoke of who has the Playboy collection and views porn on the Internet has made several judgments about my long hair, while the the man who checks out the "racks" of other women once lectured me on the morality or lack there of of my wife all because she does not wear a bra.

I understand that the Bible is rigid in its teachings... and that is fine by me. But when Christians cross the line by judging me because of some verse or verses in the Bible... a book full of teachings that they themselves are incapable of following by their own demonstration... well I am apt to get pissed and point out their hypocrisy. Before we judge another, we should take a look at ourselves first... as judgments have a funny way of boomeranging on us.

Matthew 7

“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?"

Guess that is more an ideal than an actual rule...............

 

would that be 1st or 2nd corinthians?

 

New American Standard Bible

1 Corinthians 11:14

Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him,

 

κομαο...komao, is translated as long hair/tresses. It is applied also the female hair.

Perhaps the Apostle wasn't against long hair, but against males wearing female hair styles.

 

Genesis 1:19 sort of negates the whole pot thing.

 

John 7:24 (ESV)
24 Do not judge by appearances, but judge with right judgment.”

with the corinthians quote...it means not to be hypocritical in your judgement. Of course, if you don't read the bible, then you wouldn't really be able to figure that out.

christians can judge sin. as long as we offer the solution. jesus Christ.

 

You are absolutely correct.

At the time it was written, the town of Corinth was the Las Vegas of it's time, and there was a great deal of homosexuality there. As a result you had a number of male prostitutes roaming the town as ... well, employees to the local Church of Venus (or whoever the local god was there, I can't remember atm.) The town essentially had a number of guys who were sporting long hair imitating women for that very purpose.

The thing is, the Bible isn't specifically against men having long hair per se; one of the vows you could take was the Vow of the Nazarene in which (short story) for a specific time you let your hair grow long and couldn't drink wine. I believe Paul did take that vow at some point. Samuel and Samson were Nazarites, and I think John the Baptist was as well.

 

You are talking about the teachings of Paul. A man who many early Christians believed to be a spy sent to lead Christians away from the teachings of Christ because of the fact that he commonly contriducted Christ in his sermons.

 

oh please.

 

Perhaps. Like many passages in the Bible the wording can be vague and hard to translate into a modern vernacular. There were several passages I found that mention hair or the lack there of in the Bible.

 

So is that a "God created pot, it is natural, so it is OK for Christians to smoke"?

 

I disagree. You Christians cannot even agree on what the Bible says... a reason Christianity has splintered into so many different sects over the last 2k years. Anyway, why would I want to read a book when my whole life I have been persecuted by the practitioners of its principles? I have read some of the Bible, I rather enjoy the teachings of Jesus... the rest of it is hard to swallow. People living 1000 years in Genesis... right. A real fact based read there.

Bible passage please.

All I see there is a excuse to judge... and most Christians are not very "spiritual" when delivering their judgment. They seem to leave the humility at home and replace it with rancour and bias. Just my experience though and not all Christians are like that... just most that I have met.

I am tempted to judge your sin and offer you a solution though.

 

name any of the teachings that Paul brought forth and I will prove it contridicts christ....

I'll start....

Paul said that Christians do not need to follow the old testament, and that jesus abolished the old law and created a new one......

Jesus said that he added to and fullfilled the old law, and that you should still follow it.....Adding that anyone who does not and/or teaches others not to, is viewed as the least of all god's creations.

 

That is all fine and dandy... but does that apply to only Christians or to all man kind? I am fine with Christians having short hair and basing it on the Bible. Where I see red is when a Christian judges me, a non Christian on the length of my hair. To judge me for nothing more than my long hair is shallow and superficial IMO. In America I have the Freedom to embrace any religion or none at all... tis something I really love about the USA. America is a Democracy not a monotheistic benevolent dictatorship.

 

I am referring to whoever wrote 1 Corinthians 11:14 and I am willing to bet what you just said about Paul is not universally accepted by Christians and more likely hotly debated. Not my fight.

So are you saying discount all of Paul's writings and it is OK by the Bible for a man to have long hair?

 

You and he are brothers in spirit, each getting a cheap thrill out of judging the other. Probably end up as cellmates in Hell, like the hoarders and wasters in Dante's Inferno.

 

C&V, please.

 

Samson did have long hair and was ordered by god not to cut it.

So the idea of long hair being wrong is not supported by god.

 

The verse I think he meant to refer to was Genesis 1:29, which says "Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you". So smoking pot is not specifically endorsed here (but eating pot brownies is).

 

I too do not believe that God cares at all what length a mans hair is. I like to think he sees past the superficial. I like to think that God is not fooled by the facade we all wear... people often are though.

 

I always thought this verse was strange, since "by nature" a man's hair grows just as long as a woman's does.

 

The BTK serial killer was a Church going man. Fooled everyone around him for decades. Robert Lee Yates is another serial killer that was a Church going family man. For me this just proves how inconsequential looks are. Robert Lee Yates and the BTK killer (Dennis Rader) hid an unspeakable evil under a mask of civility... and short hair I might add... and fooled everyone around them for decades. But a Christian can judge me just by my long hair...LMAO! I am afraid I am a bit more complex than that.

So is it fair for me to say that Church going men with short hair should be avoided because they are probably serial killers? Is it OK for me to say most Priests are pedophiles? Is it OK for Christians to judge a man for having long hair?

 

LOL, OK. Not sure my fiercely religious 90 y/o Grandfather would agree... but that's ok (-:

 

Good point.

 

It's OK for anybody to observe that long hair doesn't do a damm thing for a man but make him look more like a woman...and if you feel judged by such an observation, clearly the problem is on your end.