Does Corinthians 11:14 perpetuate a stereotype?

My answer to this issue (back when I had long hair) was to say "If long hair was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me." Never really understood where Paul got off downing Jesus like that.

 

the bible was designed for church leaders to say on one hand their right and on the other hand your wrong, the bible takes both sides of many issues and back then not everyone had access to the bible so they had to trust in their priests to lead them

if you were smart enough to win a fight with a priest, they would get you for something latter on down the road, maybe stone you to death for something as simple as picking up sticks around the yard on Sunday


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You're forgetting the fact that Paul was the first person who wrote about the Jesus character. The Gospels were written by his disciples much later.

 

So you're walking down the street and seen a person with long hair down the back. You think it's a woman and when the person turns around you see that he has a long beard as well. What kind of women do you associate with?

 

Who said Jesus had long hair, Leonardo?

 

Do you comprehend that? The law was death. No man could pass the tests of the law therefore Jesus fulfilled the death sentence. His last words moved us to grace my friend.

 

LOL at Leonardo. OK expert, find me any Orthodox or Roman Catholic (since they were the original churches) icon of Jesus with short hair and you win. Good luck.

 

Ya, I thought about taking the "Jesus had long hair stance", but thought it would be shot down to easily. I know many of the affluent of the time had short hair as depicted in sculptures from the period, but I am not sure that meant that society in general had short hair.

 

If society in general did have short hair, and Jesus, while preaching other revolutionary ideas, had long hair, couldn't that be seen as a statement further renouncing those societies?

 

I suppose it could. Jesus was definitely a rebel in his day.

 

I'm feeling lazy today and ... well, I could give you a number of reasons why what these guys are doing to you is wrong, but this should suffice from John 21:22

...which essentially says that as a Christian, worry about your own walk. There's others by Paul in which he says that you are to judge from inside the Church and don't concern yourself overmuch with those outside it, 1 Corinthians 5:12

... so feel free to use those.

I'll leave you with this thought: These guys are doing a very poor job of representing Christianity if they're going around complaining about your hair of all things.

 

Pretty sad how many people around here confuse cleverness with asininity.

 

Isaiah 53:2-12

New International Version (NIV)



2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

Here is the only physical description of Jesus in scripture. Long hair, short, who knows? But He wasn't pretty, so the prophet tells us.

Why was Sampson's power centered in his long locks, if long hair was such a bad thing? Another biblical contradiction.

 

It's not really a contradiction. The Nazarene Vow made it mandatory to not cut your hair, and after the vow was over, you had to shave your head completely, IIRC. And Samson was supposedly under the vow his whole life (although he violated it a couple of times) Nevertheless, we don't know much about Jesus' hair at all, although it was likely He did NOT have long hair. The tradition of his having long hair probably comes from the paintings done of Him around the 6th century.

 

It wasn't. It was centered around his obedience to God, which, as Saul found out the hard way, is better in God's eyes than the fat of rams or any other earthly commodity.

 

The story tells us that when he lost his hair he lost his powers. His faith didn't change.

 

Speak for yourself.

Sure, but he lost his hair because he made the classic mistake of hearkening to the voice of a seductress...

...which of course is a breach of faith ipso facto.

 

i think you should read it again.

He was never a really good man.. he was vengeful and sinful and he didn't obey his vows...3 of them. But the story shows that God can use even sinful men in order to fulfil his plan. You're in luck as are all of us.
His power was not in his hair. His hair was an indication of his Nazirite vow. His power was from God. He was overpowered and lost his eyesight but he was spiritually blind long before he lost his sight. God restored his super power just prior to his death.

 

Christians like you are the reason I have any respect for Christianity. Just a shame people like you are the exception and not the rule... in my experience anyway.

I have always liked what Matthew 7 says about judgment. I also am a fan of Martin Luther King Jr. and his "I Have a Dream" speech. I think people should be judged based upon the content of their character, not by the superficial like skin color, clothing, hair style... etc.

I do not think many Christians understand how destructive their judgments are to their cause. Judgments and condemnation also push away those whom may have otherwise been previously attracted to the teachings of Jesus... like me. But now days, after decades of judgment of the superficial from Christians, I would rather burn in hell than spend an eternity surrounded by the very people who persecute me because I have long hair.

Believe me, I have much to be judged on... as we all do. Let he who is without sin...

Thanks for your post.

 

Is someone ACTUALLY saying something to you about your hair or are you just imagining that this is what they thinking or might say to you? What specifically did the person say to you?

There was a reason Paul spoke about the subject to this particular church. It had to do with Authority..Christ/man/woman and then that some of the women had stopped wearing their veil as a sign of respect to church. He was using analogy probably a little but i think the overall message is to avoid looking like a woman...i mean really looking feminine..for a guy. And a woman should not try to look masculine.
and your church....which denomination?

 

For example I have been told if I cut my hair I will attract a better class of woman... that I would feel better about myself... that it makes me look like a bum.

I am not a Christian. I have always felt pulled towards Christianity, just to be repulsed by its practitioners. If I ever find a Church devoid of judgment of the superficial, I will consider joining that Church. But if adherence to the Bible means being shallow and judging the superficial in others... then I will never be a Christian. Do I believe in God? Yes. Will I explain my views... no. My faith is not subject for debate. Why do I have a bone to pick with Christians? Because they do not seem able to live and let live.

 

Don't you think muslims follow that passage more faithfully than Christians? I've seen women wear shorts to church. I haven't seen any women wear veils to church lately.

 

Christianity wasn't created on the theme of live and let live. From the very first they were told to judge their fellow believers and to kick the "bad" ones out.

As it says in 1 Corinthians 5:11-13 (NLT) = I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people. It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”

 

you missed the point as well as the muslims.