Does refusing to wear Pride symbolism mean that you hate LGBT people?

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Of course that's correct, but again, you're going completely off track. The scenario ONCE AGAIN, is that a boy tells his teacher that he is a girl. NOTHING to do with physical/sexual abuse at home.
     
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    The term "gender affirming care" can mean anything.

    In the hands of Republicans, it probably means attempting to persuade people that they are something that they are NOT.

    Telling a kid what he is, when the kid knows better, is an ASSAULT.
     
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    You can't separate these issues.

    It is just plain idiotic to pass laws that teachers can't discuss these issues with a student as well as the class. The issues affect more than just the classroom - they affect the whole school. The issues are there daily - not just a one time report to parents. School is a key place where social interaction takes place, making it important to discuss issues of discrimination and behavior.

    And again, it is assault for a teacher to tell a kid what he or she is, when he or she is NOT.
     
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    Good point, which is exactly why the left generates terms like "gender affirming care" that sound very vague and you can't nail down with a specific meaning. If you just spoke the truth and said what you meant, like mastectomies for teenage girls or penectomy, to surgically remove a teenage boy's penis, it probably wouldn't sound as "affirming."
     
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    The WHO definition includes:
    https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/what-gender-affirming-care-your-questions-answered

    Kids with gender issues are at seriously high risk of suicide in our society.

    Having some authority tell them what they are (when the kid clearly knows that is false) is NOT a solution - it is an assault.
     
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    How long has the term "gender affirming care" been a thing? Is it even a decade old?

    Telling a mentally ill child they are a different sex from their biological one by an authority figure is simple child abuse, so of course they are at high risk of suicide. You guys are killing kids with your insane religion.
     
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    You're still pretending that you can TELL them what they are and that will cause change.

    And, your idea that the issue is mental illness just proves you don't know what you are talking about - at all.
     
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    I'm sure in your religion it's about a girl spirit going to a boy's body and visa versa, but you are right that I gave short shrift to the mental illness aspect. The actual mental illness, gender dysphoria, is quite rare. What we are seeing in the past few years is more of a social contagion spread through social media, although people with your religious beliefs help that along by "affirming" any gender confusion in children. Yes, that's straight up child abuse. I hope you are not in a position where you can abuse kids like that.
     
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    What we are seeing is an increasing awareness of a biological reality that has simply been ignored.

    The assault on kids comes when adults (quite possibly well meaning) attempt to tell kids what they are.

    Well before 18, kids KNOW what they are. And, they KNOW who is assaulting them.
     
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    I think you're on to them.
    Indeed.
     
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    You don't know what the issue is.
     
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    A Leftist has fun with words. Today's fun word is "banned".

    Refusing to buy something is not "banning" it. It remains freely available from Amazon, you can use your smartphone to find it an locate it in less than 3 minutes. Something that is "banned" is not quickly, easily and legally available.

    When you can't support a position with truthful statements that is generally a reliable signal that your position needs to be reconsidered.

    And how much of this diversity crap is nothing more than a scam to enrich con artists?

    THAT’S BECAUSE DIVERSITY TRAINING IS A SCAM TO ENRICH CONSULTANTS: Commonly used police diversity training unlikely to change officers’ behavior, study finds.

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    Whoever fuels up that cop car needs to do so more carefully.

    The study found that there was no measurable difference in police conduct prior to training compared to 30 days after training.

    'Psychological Science, the study evaluates the experiences of 3,764 police officers from departments across the nation who participated in one-day bias training sessions provided by the non-profit Anti-Defamation League.'

    Refusing to virtue-signal with symbols indicates nothing other than a desire to refrain from virtue-signalling.
     
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    Nah, conservatives just call that 'social transitioning.' What would you call it?

    No matter what the kid says he is?
     
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    This is you trying to change the goal posts.

    The issue is what books are allowed in FL schools.

    Now, you want to pretend it's about Amazon???

    LOL on you. Next time try to read the topic.
     
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    So the level of teacher involvement in a case where the kid says that he gets beat up daily by his parents, is the same as the level of teacher involvement in a case where the boy says that he is a girl?
     
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    Correct. Now what does that have to do with gender-affirming care?
     
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    I gave the definition.

    I would go with the definition.

    Yes, no matter what the kid says he is. Telling a kid he is lying about what he says he is clearly qualifies as assault.
     
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    You are trying to draw lines that simply don't exist.
     
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    No, you talked about people "attempting to persuade people that they are something that they are NOT." That's a BAD thing, right?

    Telling the truth is an assault? :roflol:
     
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    Issue? We're discussing a SCENARIO! The scenario ONCE AGAIN, is that a boy tells his teacher that he is a girl.
     
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    The kid needs help, not assault.

    And, that comes out in school, where teachers have an important responsibility to that kid that doesn't end with parental notification.
     
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    You're trying to complicate the issue. Obviously the level of teacher involvement in a case where the kid says that he gets beat up daily by his parents, is NOT the same as the level of teacher involvement in a case where the boy says that he is a girl.
     
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    Only the right wing has talked about trying to persuade a kid that he is something other than the kid knows he is.
     
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    Yes they do need help. And how does cutting off her breasts or his penis "help" exactly?
     
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    So a boy can KNOW that he is a girl? :roflol:
     

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