Does refusing to wear Pride symbolism mean that you hate LGBT people?

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Actually the topic is whether vitue-signalling is necessary, and it isn't.
     
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    Who was that to?
     
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    As in his or her wellbeing, period.
     
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    It is, is it? :roflol:

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    They guy with the dog logo.
     
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    And so do you think that a boy saying that he is a girl suggests there could be reason for concern about his wellbeing?
     
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    Possibly. The teachers should try to identify the student's thinking.

    Our first duty is to protect and nurture students. If we've done that, and we may have to in rare cases protect a child from his or her parents, we should be reporting what we have learned to parents.
     
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    Report what you have learned to the parents who the child needs protection from?
     
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    So you think we should agree with an anorexic girl when she says she is far?
     
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    Regarding the boy who said he's a girl...

    Step 1 ... talk to the student to identify their thinking;
    Step 2 ... if there appears to be no concerns about the student's safety, talk to the parents; or if you have any concerns, report to the police and school administration.​
     
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    I didn't say ANYTHING about "agreeing".

    Agreeing means it's about YOU. It's not about YOU.

    It's about the student.
     
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    You still haven't made it clear why there might be concerns about the student's safety, just because he said that he is a girl.
     
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    The student is starving. what do you do about it?
     
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    You talk with the kid. That would include the reasons for the kid's concern/views, whether there are issues with the food available at school, possible ongoing treatment such as counseling, treatment by other kids/safety, what the parents know (according to the kid), etc. If the kid is looking critical it may be time to call emergency services.

    You talk with parents to determine on-going treatment and ways to be part of that at school.

    Etc.

    I'm positive that I'm not complete in this list.
     
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    Of course correcting them as to their gender will cause change. It happens in over 85% of the cases.
     
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    Cite your study.

    But, the right wing knows very well that it is not the role of the teacher to push gender on students.
     
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    Thanks!

    It's not surprising that gender dysphoria can go away with age. After all, dysphoria is a kind of confusion, and confusion is certainly not a permanent state.

    It is not the job of an educator to attempt to "fix" that dysphoria. Educators aren't clinicians, or doctors specializing in this issue.

    However, teachers have responsibility to the student body and to each individual student.

    It's just plain not acceptable that it should be a career ending event when a teacher discusses this topic with a student, especially when it is an issue of safety and educational success for the kid.

    Also, this paper addresses gender identity dysphoria. It doesn't address sexual orientation.

    Gender identity and sexual orientation are not the same thing.
     
  19. Zorro

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    The Crazy of some of the LGBTQ makes some of the LGB uncomfortable.

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    Hating People for refusing to bend to their demands that you wear the symbolism, is hateful, and can create a hostile environment.

    BUT YOU HAVE TO WEAR THE RIBBON! San Jose Sharks Goalie James Reimer Declines Wearing Pride Night Jersey; Usual Couches Fainted Upon.

    'Reimer, who is something of an NHL anomaly in that he is an outspoken Christian, provided a statement as to why he would' not wear the Pride Night jersey.

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    Naturally, the usual subjects typed their furious replies through clutched handkerchiefs.

    'The You Can Play Project, which works to promote inclusiveness in sports, said the organization was disappointed in Reimer’s actions.'

    '“Religion and respect are not in conflict with each other, and we are certainly disappointed when religion is used as a reason to not support our community,” the organization said. “Wearing pride jerseys, like any celebration jersey worn, is not about the personal feelings of an athlete; rather the communication from the team that a community is welcome in the arena and the sport.”'

    Using your 'disappointment' to convey your complete lack of respect for the personal feelings of the one you are demanding wear the symbolism, is dehumanizing.

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    Right. It's the left wing which believes that.
     
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    Right. It's their job to AFFIRM the dysphoria according to many of them.
     
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    Of course it doesn't. In fact, protecting children from adult sex shows doesn't mean that you hate lgbt folks, either.

    https://www.wkrg.com/state-regional...ade-canceled-after-anti-drag-show-law-passes/
     
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