Donald Trump 'orders immediate and full withdrawal of US troops from Syria'

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  1. BahamaBob

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    Proof?
     
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    Already posted. Try to keep up!
     
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  3. BahamaBob

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    Gee more childish drivel. Why would anyone consider anything you post as proof? Bloviating is not proof. Highly biased, no credibility. Flyboy56 posted proof backed by a credible source. Pay attention and learn from the adults. ISIS has no desires on the US.
     
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    I also posted proof, a link where DoD says there are 30 000 ISIS left in the area, and they are only 20% done with training. You are constantly resorting to personal BS, so don't expect people to bend over backwards and spoon-feed you with information which has already been posted which you either ignored, failed to comprehend. I don't care what believe, and even if I did, I wouldn't have to ask you. I can just check the news and see that Donald Trump happens to say, because that is what you will believe. No exceptions.

    Are you disappointed he is back-paddling and going from "quick pull-out" to a prolonged pull-out?
     
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    Losing their territory is a defeat.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Do you really believe what DoD says? They lose trillions of dollars to accounting errors or some such, and you still believe them?
     
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    Simply sailing the Mediterranean Sea engendered a backlash in the 18th century. Same ****, different day
     
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    Who do you believe? The draft dodger who claims to know better than the generals? Who informs him, since he rejects the advice of the military?

    Ironically even UN, who routinely disagrees with US at every turn, also recently said they estimated the ISIS strength at 30 000, and what was before Trump knee-jerk "get out now" order (which is now "get out in 4 months").
     
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    It's very complicated, but to answer your question, Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard is who I believe on this matter.

    https://dailycaller.com/2016/12/10/democratic-congresswoman-says-u-s-is-funding-and-arming-isis/
     
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    Your article is over 2 years old..... Who informs her? I know she disagreed with Trumps handling of Syria only few months ago, but what is she saying now that we are running away before the mission is complete?

    What is her estimation of the ISIS troop levels?

    Our allies on the ground, UK & France, certainly do not think the job is done.
     
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    That is a lie and you keep repeating it. Repeating a lie does not make it true. It just makes you look like a smuck. The DOD does not say there are 30,000 ISIS in Syria. Is lying the only way you can justify your stand?
     
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    Go pester someone else with your inane accusations. I attached the link saying they are in the Syria/Iraq area we are running away from.
     
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    Piracy is not a political backlash. And piracy in the Med has only been killed by the American and Roman Empires, it has otherwise existed ubiquitously, it's not a particularly Muslim phenomenon.

    Same ****, different day[/QUOTE]
     
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    Actually, now that Trump apparently actually listened to some good advice, so that he is withdrawing over a reasonable period of time in order to allow coordination with Allies and ground forces, and to allow proper planning to remove troops and equipment, I'm ok with it. My problem was the abrupt and unrealistic time frame and apparent lack of planning. I don't think it was a real case of "mission accomplished, we won" as he suggested, but the operation did make it very unattractive and 'costly' for ISIS to hang around, and there are far fewer of them left.
     
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    From the cited link:

    "A few weeks ago Gabbard met with President-elect Donald Trump at Trump Tower. Her bill is co-sponsored by Trump ally California Rep. Dana Rohrabacher.

    She said on CNN Friday that she’s glad that Trump’s “talking about ending our country’s interventionist regime change policies.”"
     
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    Good one !! It is interesting to note that the Catholic Church - if not Christianity as a whole - would have labeled the Founding Fathers heretics and the ideals on which this nation was founded - heretical - back in the day.
     
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    Now you throw Iraq into the equation. News flash, Iraq is not Syria. It is it's own country. You need to change your name to flip flop.
     
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    https://www.albawaba.com/news/conju...im-32000-isis-fighters-iraq-and-syria-1176382
     
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    I have been saying that all along. I didn't say "30 000 in Syria", Those are words you are trying to insert into my mouth, which is fairly dishonest. You angry or something? Drunk?
     
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    https://www.albawaba.com/corporate

    Arab website, give a perspective you don't get from the MSM. And they should be embedded much closer to the source of these stories. What they say makes sense and kinda aligns with what Trump was saying.
     
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    Because they are muslim-arabs, they must be telling the truth?

    What stories are they closely embedded with? US military is on the ground, while these journalists are spreading anti-US bull from Jordan.

    Of course the muslim/arabs want US out, and of course you'll believe them rather than the US military.

    Why is Trump delaying the surrender if ISIS no longer exists?
     
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    In case you don't know, which you apparently do not, she serves on a House committee that deals with such matters, AND she did one tour at least in Iraq, so she has hands on experience about issues that you and I deal with as armchair quarterbacks. Also, she visited Syria herself, and met with Assad. She knows more about it than you and I ever will.
     
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    30,000 in Iraq and Syria. Were you expecting us to kill the 30,000. Defeat of an opposing force does not require the death of every last one of them.
     
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    Good. They you should have no problem answering my questions.
     

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