Donald Trump 'orders immediate and full withdrawal of US troops from Syria'

ONE used US truck and the 100s of Toyotas was your top evidence that ISIS is a creation of western propaganda

Really perplexed that for you the 1000s of Japanese Toyotas is evidence of western propaganda creating ISIS.

 

Are you so desperate that you think I suggested there was a law saying used cars cannot be sold overseas? I hope not.

No, what I'm saying is that the preponderance of the evidence shows that ISIS is supported by the US government. Very secretly of course, and NEVER even suggested by the mainstream media, but supported. We hire mercenary terrorists, and as Jake Tapper showed with the interview of Gabbard, the mainstream media can't handle the truth.

From AQ to ISIS, those guys are often on our payroll thanks to our drug-running Central Intelligence Agency.

 

Sooo for you, 100s of Toyota trucks, one used Ford and new tennis shoes shows the US supported ISIS??????? Don't follow the logic.

 

Many facts show the US supports ISIS. The nice trucks and tennis shoes support those facts.

The reputation of the US government's for hiring mercenaries in that part of the world is well known. It is the Modus Operandi of our dope-running CIA.

 

Common sense suggests it was legally sold overseas, and some thug bought it, but your argument is that the government bought it off the lots and gave it to terrorists (plus a nice pair of tennis shoes), which is a perfect example of Breitbart conspiracy BS. Listen to yourself.

Personally I don't even believe it is the same car.

You seem hell bent on arguing US is always the bad guy.

 

Let me make sure I got this right. Obama's government bought a used pickup and some tennis shoes and gave them to ISIS to make them a military power? Not being critical but some may say anyone saying that is missing a few cards in his deck.

 

Maybe Obama also sent ISIS a Rambo DVD as training material.

 

By the record, the US government practices military aggression and one that overthrows legitimately elected governments. Sadly, this makes the US government a bad guy. Too many times the truth sux.

 

Obama himself probably had no knowledge of the machinations of the CIA.

FYI there is more to ISIS than pick-up trucks and tennis shoes. Those items just helped for the photo op, with those guys riding around in the desert in nice neat formations flying flags. That plays well for the MSM and a very gullible public.

 

We know Israel and the USA are close friends and buddies in the war on terror.
We also know via a photo that Netanyahu is friends with the terrorists. He lets them come to Israeli hospital to get their wounds treated and cared for.

Why should we believe the Americans are fighting the same terrorists that Israel is caring for?

 

It's not that the MSM can't handle the truth, it's that the editors have a certain narrative they must follow. The US was supposed to be bombing ISIS before Russia entered the fray, but for a year the bombs were being dropped on the desert. When Russia got involved they asked Washington why they weren't bombing the thousands of trucks carrying oil from Raqqa to Turkey. Kerry's response was that they didn't want to hurt innocent people.

The only person they would have hurt was Bilal Erdogan who was making a fortune with the oil, and giving ISIS arms in return. Again when Putin was in Antalya, he named the 30 nations that were buying the stolen oil, and the US could care less - even though it was a criminal act.

 

Al Nusra terrorists were being cared for in the Israeli hospitals. Israel was using them to keep away Hezbollah - which wouldn't have been there in the first place if they weren't trying to topple Assad. When Israel wanted to bomb Syria, they would tell Al Nusra to send in a few missiles and blame it on Assad.

Russia to get rid of Al Nusra, made arrangements for Hezbollah and Iran to be a safe distance from the Golan Heights and the Israeli border. They also established 15 guard posts with Sunni Chechnyans in Russian uniforms.

ISIS on the other hand, was helped and supported by Turkey to fight the Kurds. They're still fighting one another.

 

"Donald Trump 'orders immediate and full withdrawal of US troops from Syria'"

so are any troops still in Syria? just checking if Trump's orders were followed

 

He already downgraded the "immediate" to "about 4 months", which is a step in the right direction. Maybe Mattis walk-out, and military objections opened his eyes.

 

John Bolton just said we will not remove troops from Syria until ISIS is eliminated???That could be many moons!!!

 

Alright,
that oil stolen by Turkey, and the US not caring, shows clearly that those two countries are in cahoots being friends with the terrorists!
Who's oil was it? Syria's?
Who stole the oil?
The terrorists!
Who bought the oil from the terrorists?
Erdogan's son did.
Who paid the terrorists for the oil?
Turkey did.
Why did the US not stop Turkey's support for the terrorists?
Because the US likes the terrorists!
Why does the US like the terrorists?
Because they fight against Assad's Syria!!
Where do the terrorists come from?
From more than 80 countries.

 

Good.

However, Trump, and his loyalists are saying ISIS is already defeated. What happened?

 

Not only are our troops still there, but yesterday the coalition true to its calling killed 10 more Syrian civilians. Assad complained to the UN that they are killing locals, not ISIS - which is understandable considering that Washington's only excuse for being in Syria is to get rid of ISIS. So if there is no more ISIS, how can they remain in Syria and continue their agenda of toppling Assad?

Also the civilians the coalition is killing east of the Euphrates are probably Shias - or maybe even Christians and certainly not endeared by the Gulf states and Israel.

Then Pompeo comes out with the lie again, since propaganda in Washington supersedes morality, and said if Assad uses chemical weapons again he will pay for it - when he knows damn well Assad never used chemical weapons. Hitler anyone?

And Bolton not to be outdone with the propaganda said that Turkey should not dare attack the Kurds, and that any move they make has to be coordinated with the US. Excuse me, isn't that something that Syria and Russia should decide not the US who shouldn't be there in the first place?

Oh well, so much for Trump trying to pull our troops our of Syria.

 

Suddenly Trump admin says ISIS has not been defeated, and we are not pulling out until the job is done.

This is good news, although it tends to make you look somewhat silly since you spent so much time and energy supporting Trumps "immediate pull-out" declaration.

Do you still think we need to pull out ASAP, or do you support Trumps new direction?

"They're all coming back and they're coming back now." - Donald J Trump mid Dec 2018

 

In the MSM we only get spin - or nothing at all. RT and Sputnik on the other hand being part of the Russian government doesn't want to offend nations, so they try to be objective - so there's not much there either.

Anyway according to a very disturbing video on a non aligned Greek site, the Turkish mercenaries in ISIS are now killing Kurds in Turkey and calling them terrorists. This might be the reason Bolton said the US will not allow them to kill the Kurds.

 

Nothing makes you war mongers happier than another kid in a flag draped casket. Pity when left wing whiners would rather see dead American kids than admit Trump is right.

 

You dodged the question.

I don't know what left wingers are saying. I only speak for myself and I am not left wing.

You went through lot of trouble defending Trumps "bring troops home immediately" command, while I said it was stupid. What do you say now that Trump changed his mind? I think Bolton and the military are correct in saying a hasty 'cut and run' would have been foolish.

 

so looks like Trump gives a order to the military and they just ignore him?

the problem with Trump is he changes his mind hour to hour based on the last person or tv show he watches

 

Another way of looking at it is that he tries to give the American people what he promised, and the swamp jumps on him.

 

You say you are not a leftist. Leftists never admit to that. They always claim to be centralist. However, your far left liberal posts and intense hate for all things Trump tell the true story. I am not aware of everything that is going on there and neither are you. If Trump received information that caused him to delay his exit and did so, that shows leadership. Unlike Obama who never changed his decisions. Trump is also a master of diversion. He often changes the focus of all you leftist lemmings with a tweet. You all run off the cliff. He sits back and laughs.

As for me, I don't think we should ever have been in there. So the sooner we get out the better. However, Obama opened up a big shi* sandwich and Trump has to make the most of it.