Donald Trump retweets far-right group's anti-Muslim videos

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  1. Mac-7

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    Again, I dont live in the UK but reading news such as the BBC advertising to hire non white prospects only suggests rgat the persercution is happening against whites instead

    Ut thats only my opinion from far away
     
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    Whatever fantasies you're on, skinheads are men with tightly shaved heads. It's always, and only, been that way. Skin = short, cropped hair. Can't believe I have waste time correcting this.
     
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    I am sure people have written here about how outrageous people are to be concerned that spreading these hate posts might upset Muslims. Most British people will be aware of Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. She is concerned about what is going on.

    http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/no-wonder-...around-world-are-finding-common-goals-1649504
     
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    It is my great pleasure to provide you with the means to alleviate a modicum of your ignorance.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinhead
     
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    Did you read it?


    Obviously that doesn't include long-haired women.

    Happy to help. You were saying about your ignorance?
     
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    are you truly unable to comprehend the fact that female skinheads exist or are you merely being churlish?
     
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    I don't know where to go with this. Of course female skinheads exist (and since I didn't say they didn't I don't know where that gem comes from), in, I'm guessing, small number, when they're >>skin heads<< as defined above. Webster:


    A woman with long flowing hair is not a skinhead as per the English language or any definition thereof. This doesn't need wasting time on.
     
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    If the progressives get their way, we will catch up to you with the liberal lunacy.
     
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    Not quite. The annual poppy appeal has been well established for many years as an important charity event in the UK. The British Legion sell poppies and poppy badges and so on in supermarkets and on the street every year in the run up to Remembrance Sunday. In doing so, they raise a huge amount of money for veterans' charities, and do a great deal of good supporting former service personnel from all conflicts. It's an extremely popular way for the public to support such charities, and most people buy stuff from them every year.

    What BF have been doing is using the poppy as a symbol all over their various pages (not all of which are entirely open about what organisation they are set up by), then selling their own poppy stuff that looks very like the British Legion stuff, alongside the same kind of 'support our veterans' and 'support our brave forces' type messaging, to get people to think that they were doing the same thing, when in fact they were doing it to raise money for themselves. Hence the accusation of 'theft' - it isn't actually 'theft' as such, of course (aside from any copyright infringements and the like), but it is trying to con people into giving money to their political campaign (a campaign the vast majority reject, just like they did when Oswald Mosley or Nick Griffin were around campaigning for the same kind of stuff) in the belief that they are giving money to charities that will help former soldiers. In doing so, they are taking money for themselves that was intended by the donor/purchaser to be a charitable donation.

    ETA: That's also the kind of trickery that allows them to claim 'millions of supporters' - actually they've spent years creating and sharing social media content that looks like apolitical 'support our forces' and 'remember those who served' stuff. It's been a very clever social media campaign - get people to share your content by creating content many will automatically agree with, like and share without realising what organisation/agenda they are inadvertently promoting. Then they follow it up with some (usually entirely made up) simplistic 'outraged' anti-Muslim hate stuff, and people see it because they have previously shared/liked content from the same page. Many have been taken in by it on social media (though much less so now - people are far more wise to it), but BF don't really have 'millions of supporters' at all - they are the latest in a long line of tiny neo-fascist groups in the UK, but just one with a very clever marketing ploy to get themselves noticed.
     
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    Fair play on the additional input. I still think it's a stretch to call it "theft", and I think Ria was wilfully misrepresenting the situation. Nationalist / patriotic groups do patriotic symbols. The BNP for a while did a thing superimposing Nick Griffin's head over Churchill's, which made me want to punch something in annoyance. But I get the appeal for Christianity-orientated, patriotic, nationalist folk. They want people to remember. Personally, I've never worn a poppy in my life.


    We part there. I've done a bit of investigating since all this BS hit (had forgotten about them), and a load of stuff has been vastly misrepresented, as is so often the case.
     
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    Nationalist groups do nationalist symbols, but the poppy isn't that - it's a symbol of remembrance, which isn't the same thing at all. It was a quite deliberate ploy to create social media content that people would share without looking at the source, and then to make them some money out of it for themselves effectively under false pretences (but with just enough 'small print' to get away with it). Deliberate and cynical.

    They fronted their anti-immigration campaign with a Spitfire. Turned out it was a Spitfire from a squadron of Polish pilots. Just about sums them up.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OLISH-Spitfire-anti-immigration-campaign.html

    There's no mis-representing a racist organisation that grew from a racist organisation that grew from a racist organisation, with the same racist individuals moving from one to another. They might pretend to be merely 'patriots' but they are anything but - just another bunch of obnoxious racists trying to pretend it's really all just about being patriotic and loving the country and standing up for 'freedom' and 'identity', but they aren't fooling anyone. It's all just the same old white power stuff under a thin attempted veneer of respectability so that they can keep trying to get away with it.

    This is how it works, according to Nick Griffin:
     
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    It should be abvious to anyone with an IQ over 90 that Trump is a closet KKK'er - meaning he hates everything that is not 'white' and Christian. He makes an exception for Jews because his son-in-law - you know, the one who is married to the daughter he clearly wants to date - is Jewish.

    Of course, the fact that this understanding requires an IQ over 90 disqualifies most Trumpbots as we know most of them are uneducated AND most uneducated people have low IQ's.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...ivals-in-support-from-less-educated-americans

    http://www.iqtestexperts.com/iq-education.php


    And we also know that people with low IQ's are more racist and prejudiced.

    http://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796


    All this helps to explains why Trump voters seem to be FAR more racist and bigoted then most Americans.

     
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    There is really not much to discuss once the left wing jargon is eliminated apart from, perhaps, the Race youre referring to. Which is it?
     
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    Yes, all three videos had been previously posted.
     
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    I am an atheist, but I can read the contents of both religions.
     
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    Fake News spreads like a virus, but over exposure is creating a degree of immunity now. Most people no longer believe the MSM.
     
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    Sorry, who has stated that the videos had not been previously posted before Britain First posted them? The statue video was first broadcast by ISIS and here we have your president carrying on the propaganda work for ISIS.
     
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    Actually it's you spreading fake news unless you can point out where any posters have insisted Britain First was the first source.
     
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    You're entitled to your take on it. I would call the poppy a symbol of remembrance / nationalism / patriotism all rolled in to one. Doesn't surprise me that a nationalist group would use it without base motives, but then we're obviously on different sides of this aisle.


    Again, you paint them from your own colour perspective. From the small research I've done they've been grossly maligned, and this is entirely consistent with the media treatment of all such types. How often have they dined out on Tommy Robinson's "mortgage fraud" charge? He lent his brother some money, FF's sake. As such, I tend to regard all such media attacks of hyperbole with a fairly jaundiced eye, as I regard they're hysterical meltdown over the Muslim videos.
     
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    It's not a bit ironic that this diatribe of invective and incoherence comes from someone complaining about low IQs.
     
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    I wonder what the outraged media classes would have said if Trump had tweeted this video?


     
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    so am I and I have also studied both religions amongst a few others.

    If only all adherents actually acted with the righteousness described in each, whackos not withstanding.
     
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    Brave women are in the forefront in fighting this ugly male-dominated religion. They should have more support from the real men remaining in our western culture, despite the dwindling numbers.
     
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