Donald Trump to Newsmax: Remember, Nancy Pelosi Was in Charge of Security on Jan. 6

Well, ya know, Putin wins elections every time. The leaders of Iran win elections every time.

 

WTF does that have to do with a narcissistic loser holding a rally on Jan 6 to incite his followers to storm the Capitol?

 

And some of them migrated over to the capitol where there was a second group of protestors. Even Trump said, at a rally, that he wanted to march with "his people" over to the Capitol but the Secret Service told him no.

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069...ack-unfolded-including-who-said-what-and-when

 

Nothing in that report even remotely suggests anything that Pelosi had anything to do with it. Failure of the leadership of Capitol Police maybe, but not Pelosi.

 

I asked a question.

Do you understand the difference between a claim and a question?

You are wading in irony.

Because you blame Pelosi - who, by the way, has no power over the Capitol Police - for not foreseeing that MAGA would be violent.

It's like a criminal suing the police because they weren't competent enough to arrest him earlier.

 

Granting of the National Guard is done by the DoD, an executive branch of the government, not Congress, for DC.

You may want to look at Executive Order 10030

 

That's not even 1% of Congress.

 

And if we don't stop the cheating in our election... Biden will win every time.

 

The former speaker of the house puts the blame directly in Pelosi's lap
"""Again, a former speaker, I was deeply offended that anybody would do what they did on the Capitol grounds. But as a former speaker, I was also really offended that the current speaker, Pelosi, failed so totally in her job, which was to make sure this didn’t happen. This is a totally nutty environment that we’re currently operating in, and historians will look back on it as a period that’s kind of mildly insane.
Well, I think she’s the person who is most responsible for what happened. It was her job to ensure that there was adequate police and if they didn’t have adequate police it was her job to ensure that the National Guard was there. So a lot of this I think is a dance by the Democrats who don’t want us to look very closely at what actually happened. If you’ll notice, the political committee they have created is, in fact, only looking at political things. They are not looking at the various ringleaders who have not been arrested. They are not at a lot of the details about whether or not the FBI was as involved as provocateurs."""

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/newt-gi...on-who-is-most-responsible-for-what-happened/

 

Out of curiosity...have you read or listened to what he said that day?

 

No Trump is wrong, period.

 

No... Trump is right...

Kash Patel confirms the Trump Admin was trying to deploy the National Guard for Jan 6 but were blocked
"And if you look at the video from January 6, and they still won't release all of it, and entire side of the Capitol, I believe it's the south side, was totally unmanned. No police officers whatsoever, and that's where the crowd came in through," Patel said. "And you have to ask yourself: 'What happened on January 6?'"

https://twitter.com/AKA_RealDirty/status/1412146678644330496

https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-trump-offered-national-guard-capitol-denied

 

LOL Newt Gingrich, the man who was run out of congress by his own political party and never forgave them of that.

Newt has not been right on anything in the past 6 years. He predicted Trump will win big in 2020, he was wrong. He predicted all the lawsuits that Trump and his collegues filed will win. He was wrong. He even predicted a conservative Supreme Court will side with Trump, and he was wrong. It's the typical GOP tactic of shifting the blame to someone else instead of dealing with the insurrection directly that made the GOP look realy, really bad.

 

Read much of it.

Mostly rambling lies aimed at whipping the crowd into an outraged frenzy.

 

So, what amount of responsibility did Trump have?

 

LOL, Patel was the one who blocked the DoD from transiitioning from the Trump Administration to the Biden Administration in 2021. And any blocking would have been made by the DoD, not Congress.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/24/kash-patel-pentagon-transition-440293

 

And tRump tried to rig it so he didn't lose. If he had succeeded we wouldn't be bothered with elections anymore; he would have become permanent dictator. Nothing funny about that.

 

Well, according to this site both the HoR and Senate has oversight of the Capitol Police. LINK: Oversight | United States Capitol Police (uscp.gov)

And according to the following the now former Chief of Capitol Police had requested National Guard help before Jan 6 but was rejected by the Sergeant at Arms Paul Irving because of "optics".

LINK: Outgoing Capitol Police chief: House, Senate security officials hamstrung efforts to call in National Guard - The Washington Post

And for those that can't read WAPO or don't like them: LINK: Capitol Police chief sought DC National Guard help before riots – but was denied by supervisors: report | Fox News

Note that Paul Irving was the Sergeant at Arms of the HoR. But he has said that he did not discuss it with Pelosi. Whether or not he actually did or not we'll never actually know. But it does seem fishy to me that he wouldn't discuss such a request from the Chief of the Capitol Police with her since that is kind of a big request. But, assuming that he really didn't.... Then he Effed up BIG TIME. In any case, the fact that the Chief of the Capitol Police went to the Sergeant at Arms rather than someone in the WH does show that they are under the jurisdiction of Congress. Which means that any request by the Capitol Police has to go through Congress first. Chain of Command works that way. (everything I said here applies to the Senate's Sergeant at Arms of the time Michael Tenger also...it was just simpler typing it the way I did and then adding this at the end)

And Bowerbird, that is not the question you should be asking. You should be asking that since everyone knew that there was going to be a Trump rally that day, with thousands of people...why didn't Nancy or Mike Pence (or both) request NG support prior to 1/6? As head of their respective chambers they are the ones that are ultimately responsible for the security of those chambers.

 

SO, now you have less than 1% of Congress and a fat old has been blaming Pelosi.

 

Then I have to ask...do you have trouble with understanding context? Because everything you pointed out in your post completely ignores context and reads more along the lines of talking points. So by all means show us the context of those points that you make about Trumps speech.

 

I don't know of anyone who fits that description.

 

And yet it's STILL not Pelosi's fault, no matter how much you want it to be.

 

Misinformation.

 

This is true, this is how Harry Truman handed the control of the DC National Guard to the DOD. The US President has direct control of the DC National Guard, but most of the time they hand off the control to the DOD, which is next in line in the official list of controllers for the DC National Guard.
https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/

 

So why would they chase Pelosi down on the House floor to OK the guard? If she was not connected anyway to calling up the guard?

They passed her a note on the house floor to obtain her permission to deploy the guard after the breach.... if she had nothing to do with it, why did they suddenly need her permission? To little to late then.
Ms. McCullough immediately entered the room and passed a note to Ms. Pelosi with the request. Video from inside the chamber shows her approaching the speaker at 1:43 p.m. Ms. Pelosi approved the request and asked whether Senator Mitch McConnell, the Kentucky Republican who was then the majority leader, also needed to approve it. Ms. McCullough said he did, according to Ms. Pelosi’s office.

fake news site...

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/21/us/politics/capitol-riot-security-delays.html