Donald Trump to Newsmax: Remember, Nancy Pelosi Was in Charge of Security on Jan. 6

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    Let 'em have a taste of their own medicine.
     
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    And yet it's STILL not Pelosi's fault, no matter how much you want it to be.
     
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    It's Neither. Benedict Donald did try to rig our election so that he didn't lose. It's my opinion, this is the "Political Opinions & Beliefs" forum; that had he been successful he would have done his best to retain power beyond his four years and install himself as permanent dictator.
     
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    I'm not doubting that this is what happened, but it is a moot point. At any time, being subordinate solely to the president of the us, the DC National Guard could have been ordered in by Trump, and he failed to do so. All this finger pointing in other directions is just to diffuse the irresponsibility of Trump.
    Please read this: https://dc.ng.mil/About-Us/
     
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    Purveyor of misinformation.
     
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    If we stop all the cheating, the Republicans won't stand a chance. You do realize in the last 4 years, most of the voter fraud was conducted by Republicans, which is why I think they are the ones who are complaining the loudest, to try and cover that up.
     
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    A little info for you. :)

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...osi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/
     
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    President Trump authorized the National Guard to be in DC on January 6th and Nancy Pelosi turned it down.

    https://rumble.com/vt0mr4-trump-i-authorized-national-guard-on-jan.-6-pelosi-turned-it-down.html

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    Well, that settles it! Trump said he did that, and we all know he wouldn't exaggerate or tell any mistruths!
    You're going to have to come up with something more credible than Trump talking to Hannity.
    You do realize they've combined to make up a lot of stuff?
    LOL!
    Don't you find it odd that he has not yet offered up any actual "proof", like a memo or email or SOMETHING!
    I guess it's true that there's a sucker born every minute.
     
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    W T F else would you expect desperate Donald to say? He'd blame his mother if she wasn't dead. He might anyway if he gets it in his head it will help.
     
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    Because Antifa and BLM had a strong history of going to rightwing rallies and engaging in violence and disruption.
     
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    So you think that Trump requested those additional National Guard troops because of Antifa and BLM? But Trump never mentioned it, and I've never heard of those groups having a "strong history" of going to right wing rallies. And then, we have the fact that 100% of the perpetrators on Jan 6th were Trump supporters. like you.
    Thanks for playing, hope you do better next time! Your premise is a reach, at best, but shows that you will come up with any excuse for Trump, just as the good Trumpian soldier should! You are 100% of the problem with Trump. You will excuse every one of his disgusting, anti-American statement and acts.
    I hope you don't consider yourself a patriot to America!
    All Hail Trump! Even over America.
     
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    Yes. He would in a heartbeat. You can tell quite a bit about a person by the people they admire.

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    YES, they were worried as was happening all across the country that counter protesters which were 100% leftist like you would show up and engage in violence.

    Trump asked for troops to do 'whatever was necessary' to protect demonstrators who went on to storm the Capitol

    He said that Trump then ordered Miller to fulfill Bowser's request and told him to "do whatever was necessary to protect the demonstrators that were executing their constitutionally protected rights."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...tect-supporters-at-capitol-says-miller-2021-5
     
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    Mark Meadows... Even in January, that was a given, as many as 10,000 National Guard troops were told to be on the ready by the Secretary of Defense. That was a direct order from President Trump and yet here is what we see, all kinds of blame going around but yet not a whole lot of accountability. That accountability needs to rest with where it ultimately should be and that’s on Capitol Hill.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...fered_security_assistance_multiple_times.html

    https://www.worldtribune.com/meadow...y-10000-national-guard-to-d-c-ahead-of-jan-6/

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    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...ultiple-times-dc-officials-january-6th-video/

     
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    A. I don't consider myself a "leftist", but maybe that's your way of an attempted insult. No sweat from me.
    B. How many Antifa or BLM were there on Jan 6th? Confirmed, not fantasy. My bet would be that you will say many along with FBI agitators, but provide no real evidence of it...........
     
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    """Don't you find it odd that he has not yet offered up any actual "proof", like a memo or email or SOMETHING!"""

    https://townhall.com/columnists/der...or-dc-on-january-6-democrats-said-no-n2605581


    https://media.defense.gov/2021/Jan/...Y-6-2021-VIOLENT-ATTACK-AT-THE-US-CAPITOL.PDF


    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC&RulesFullReport_ExaminingU.S.CapitolAttack.pdf


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    So while Trump watched the Capital being attacked, he did nothing. :)
     
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    Having oversight does not mean they have control. House and Senate have oversight of the Department of Treasury, Department of Defense, Department of Energy, Department of Health and Human Services, and so forth. And yet, that does not mean they have control on what they do, who they hire, etc, do they. Oversight is simply a checks and balance of what the executive branch does, like a board of governors or board of directors.
     
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    The rioters were chasing down Nancy Pelosi because they were too **** stupid, they did not want the Constitutional process of electing and confirming the results of the election, AND they wanted to keep their "man" in power at any and all costs.

    Second, there was no "note" passed at all. That is just made up stuff by Trump loyalists putting blame on anyone and everyone but themselves. It's the signature of Trump and modern conservatives now. It is simply a conspiracy theory by Rep Jim Jordan, the child molestor who was never tried, who happens to be a very big Trump loyalist.

    https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-pelosi-denied-request-national-guard-troops/
     
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    Do you consider "left" an insult?

    I have no idea. How many times has Antifa and BLM engaged in violent protest and counter-protest? Who is it do you think Trump would need more NG in Washington to be protected? Do you think he wanted more NG troops there who would be at the direction of the local police and capital police because he was going to engage in an insurrection. That seems counter intuitive. I would think he would want as few as possible.
     
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    They in fact do have a voice in the hiring of the top level officials at those departments. But you were responding to a statement about oversight of the Capital Police. Yes the high officials at the Capital, with the SOTH given the top role in that by tradition, have oversight and control of the Capital Police, who did you think does?
     
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    President had no involvement in the deployment of NG troops, he was not part of the process and no concurring was required

    "The Pentagon announced Thursday changes to the process for deployment of the District of Columbia National Guard, giving more authority to the Secretary of Defense to deploy them in certain urgent situations.

    Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin requested a review of how the National Guard is operated and deployed in Washington D.C. following the events of Jan. 6, when the Pentagon was criticized for not deploying National Guard troops to the Capitol faster.

    Austin now has the authority to approve requests for National Guard personnel when they are to be deployed within 48 hours, or when the activities the Guardsmen are needed for involve civilian law enforcement tasks like crowd control or making arrests, according to the memo announcing the changes.


    The changes amended a 1969 executive order that shifted control over the National Guard from the president, who controlled the guard in the district as there was no state governor to fill the role, to the defense secretary, and that authority was later transferred to the Army secretary, the top civilian official in the branch.
    https://www.newsweek.com/defense-se...-dc-national-guard-some-circumstances-1664563
     
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