Dr Wood's claim that 80% of the steel from the towers was turned to dust.

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I would be happy if he just dropped all the strawmen he creates along the way. He has more presumptions than government!

    That and since this topic is about DUST I think he should answer my challenge first, but it appears he has resolved himself to accepting that it was in fact a demolition.
     
  2. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thus conceded the truther who thought the rules of physics had been bent.
     
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    pimptight Banned

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    9-11 liar can't speak in simple terms!
     
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    pimptight Banned

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    Avoid specifics at all cost, stay on offense, and last resort muddy the waters with techno babble.

    Perhaps a forum slide if they don't like how things are going.
     
  5. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Wait, so he goes deep into the specifics by describing how the process YOU pretended to know about, actually operates. You then say, "You use dem smart werds, use werds normul peepl understand." You then comment to koko about how specifics are avoided at all cost. He couldn't have possibly given you a more specific answer, you just don't understand it. Have you ever thought that maybe that's why you think 9/11 is a conspiracy. A bunch of things you don't understand took place and in your mind you think conspiracy. Occam's razor buddy
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    spare me. he whined about an exception, I gave it to him, then in his wonderful diatribe he wants to call teaching pulled his usual impasse in pretense that his explanation is the only application. Just like his pretense that energetic iron though technically is iron, heated, immersed in co2 and which is impossible to exist in the wtc somehow supported his position. Nah we did that dance once, aint gonna do it again.

    Why dont you ask him why he conceded to me that the wtc was in fact a demoltion? He was given ample opportunity and chose to concede instead. LOL

    Maybe its the inevitable red face factor involved in any other response......ya think?



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  7. pimptight

    pimptight Banned

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    That is a nice alternate reality you are creating there.

    I was unaware that it is impossible to describe forces in terms that don't look like this:


    Here let me give it a shot as a translator:

    Gas - that thing you learned about in elementary school - First paragraph

    Aerosols - particles of liquid and solids bouyant in air - Second paragraph

    Archimedes' principle - buoyancy = weight of displaced fluid - Third paragraph

    Further expanding on gas - lighter gas rises higher then heavier gas - Fourth paragraph

    Tell me again how he isn't engaging in techno babble to muddy the waters.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    he is in the op too.

    You are now witnessing the tiny micro particles of rapidly oxidated iron dust floating away , and how boring, no inferno!

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    nope no flaming fire storm of iron here at all.

    So much for the iron meets oxygen


    His SOP is to build a string of faulty presumptions on one correct or 1/2 correct premise.

    Like you said an alternate reality.

    People use the term dust in a generic sense however it comes in all sizes. The ability of particulate to "float away" is not a prerequisite essential element to the proper use of the word dust. He thought it was essential to build his impenetrable fortress problem so he could declare himself the winner.

    We can see DUST here and plainly it is falling to the ground like waterfalls;

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    and here

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    and here

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    and here

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    He should do a better job of looking up the words used to better insure his success of creating a totally boxed in problem with all the bases covered so he can win by knowing all the possible variants and answers in advance rather than having others teach him by red face methods.

    But then;

    I suppose that is why 3000 grit sand paper is outlawed because so many people have burned their hands as the iron dust hits oxygen and bursts into flames.
     
  9. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    So if you completely understood it, which it doesn't appear you do, then why are you whining about it so much? He wasn't "addressing an audience" persay, he was addressing you. Is this just your way of bogging down the conversation instead of helping it progress?
     
  10. Kokomojojo

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    try to pay attention.

    my above post destroyed fangbeers whole premise and exposed even to the least educated person on the planet how incredulous and faulty his one application fits all physics really is.
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    No you didn't.
     
  12. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You think you destroyed the chemical properties of iron with an unsourced animated gif image of an unknown material being burnished with an unknown tool?

    This should be fun.

    Prove that, whatever the hell that is, is iron, and prove the tool actually removes iron, and not such the paint layer covering whatever metal that is.
     
  13. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Sure I did
    What?
    Oh.
    really?
    Whoda thunk that?
    wow
    I see
    ok
    you dont say
    sure
    got it
    wow man with all that evidence what can I say?

    I am sure you convinced everyone and everything all the time!


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    oh wait, chump aint buying it, try again.
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, and when you're done, prove the steel in the WTC towers underwent the same process.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    for (*)(*)(*)(*) sake what does it take with you people?

    Now you want me to prove YOUR version of the chemistry of iron! WTF is up with that?

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    more highly oxygenated iron and no flaming inferno!

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    I can post these all day long! You can buy this (*)(*)(*)(*) at any hardware store and prove it to yourself!

    see you can tell that it is iron, it is RUSTY, wait maybe its a conspiracy? Maybe they just painted it rust color?

    NOPE NO FLAMES.

    I think its time to run a bill through congress to lift the ban on 3000 grit sand paper since your chemistry just dont cut it.
     
  16. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, and when you're done, prove the steel in the WTC towers underwent the same process.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    First things first! Your claim, you prove your chemistry!

    Dont ask me to prove your faulty chemistry for you.

    Get a iron beam and prove it.

    Doesnt have to be a big one any small beam will work fine since no one in the whole world can seem to get iron to burst into flames when it meets oxygen but YOU!

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    see nothin nadda

    no flaming inferno! boring as hell.

    I wanna see oxygen react with iron dust.

    So get your sparkless grinder and go to town and show us!
    Now is your chance dont blow it!
     
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    pimptight Banned

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    You know what my favorite part about this is?

    The absurdity of watching you struggle to respond while trying to maintain the illusion that you have to be stupid to have questions about 9-11!
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    You know what my favorite part is? The fact that you guys have questions about 9/11, they get answered, then you (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) about how you aren't smart enough to understand it, then it's dumbed down, then you claim it's BS, and start it all over again. And you don't even wonder why your movement has gone nowhere in a decade? No questions as to why no one pays any attention to you guys except people like myself, and a few others who toy with you guys for fun? The Truth Movement is a joke, it's not taken seriously by anyone. That is why Richard Gage is a nobody, no one cares about what he says.

    You guys are entertainment, pure and simple.
     
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    pimptight Banned

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    You don't answer questions, you undermine them.

    Kokomojojo provides a video that everyone can see with their own eyes, and the 9-11 liars response is 'prove that is actually iron!'

    Really?

    Are you freaking kidding me?
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Hey buddy, read the post I replied too. You didn't have any questions other than, "do you know what my favorite part is?" Then you proceeded to answer your own question. What did you want me to do? Tell you what your favorite part is?
     
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    The reason we ask for proof of things is because, unlike truthers, we like to see the evidence. Truthers take everything at face value, unless it's anti-woo. Youboob vids, small .gifs, you guys drink that (*)(*)(*)(*) up like kool-aid. As long as it helps your cause you will absolutely buy anything.

    Real researchers, real critical thinkers, real intelligent people question everything they're shown. They research the information presented, and only when it's found to be factual does it affect their opinion. That's the difference, intelligent people know that there are anomalies with 9/11. It was a tragic disaster that has never been seen before ever. There are weird quirks, or oddities about something that big. However, just because every little itty bitty thing can't be explained doesn't mean their is a conspiracy, it means (*)(*)(*)(*) happens and sometimes there's no reason.

    Also, I source my information, so yes I do answer questions, all the time. You just don't like the answers.
     
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    bro you need to do a little "real" research and revise your history! The freaking government we have was created out of a conspiracy! The police state, and its only gotten worse! If you cant see a conspiracy at nearly every turn the government takes then you are ignorant of the law! NO I didnt say regs, I said LAW!
     
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    why not, fang expects me to prove HIS (faulty) iron chemistry theory for him! LOL
     
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    What leads you to believe it isn't iron in the video?

    Oh wait, I guess you don't need any evidence for that huh?

    How convenient for you!
     
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