Drew Brees receives intense backlash from star athletes after remarks about protesting.

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  1. nra37922

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    He put the team before personal integrity. Oh well, his choice.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the kneeling starts again this year I will be turning off the nfl, already skipped a full season when it started and didnt really miss it to be honest.

    Your move nfl.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that the NFL Commisionee says it was wrong not to let players protest peacefully will Kapernick get his job back?

     
  5. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    Naw.

    He's a horrible player AND a nightmare personally.

    Total poison, and the whole kneeling thing was just a sulk move that was pandered into more.

    Bonfire of the Vanities.
     
  6. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah ok, so no data — just your opinion.
    Seems like a trend with your “facts”.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have pride when my country does good and makes advancements for our citizens and the world. Those seem to be happening less and less. I am not a nationalist, I do not owe cheer my nation when we are screwing up. I don’t belong to that cult. But you are correct, I will never “get” blind fealty.
    Because I have family here, two businesses, friends — this is my home. Why don’t you seeing that you are the one demanding loyalty to the government (I bet it is only when republicans are in charge though).

    Biblically satanic? The bible has quite a few passages on what you are preaching here.
     
  8. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He has a right to his opinions and so do they. What’s your beef?
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you a hypocrite for standing with trump as he throws HK under the bus in his attempts to smear China for his mishandling of the pandemic?
    Will you be a hypocrite if you continue watching pro sports if the players resume kneeling?
     
  10. Egoboy

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    Naw.... he talked about running for Governor of AL back in the day, but he's never been on a ballot...

    Also note

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    Barkley spoke for many years of his Republican Party affiliation. In 1995, he considered running as a Republican candidate for Alabama's governorship in the 1998 election.[86] However, in 2006, he altered his political stance, stating "I was a Republican until they lost their minds."
    ENDSNIP

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Barkley

    Another good thing about Barkley in office... he sucks so bad at golf, he probably wouldn't spend much time in office on the course.

    He's also reportedly a MAJOR gambler, which may or may not be a deal breaker for voters.... Wouldn't bother me, as long as he's using his own money...
     
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    Thanks, I couldnt remember the details.

    I love charles, he has zero filter. Absolutely zero. When you get his opinion you know it's his thoughts, not preapproved remarks that fit into a safe little box.

    I'm afraid the NFL is on the verge of losing me again as a fan. I'm not optimistic on how this thing is going to go.
     
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    That part is ridiculous.... He was a slightly above league average QB when he was a starter in SF...

    Looking at his career stats, the one thing that does negatively stand out is his fumbling numbers... but he also was a running QB, so those would obviously be higher than an immobile QB (Brady, Brees etc)

    As has been pointed out, salary demands aside (which is an important factor), he certainly has the skills to be a backup in the NFL, even likely today.

    But I also understand why nobody wants to take him on either...
     
  13. Egoboy

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    Would be interesting if (or how much) Charles would change if in office... Hopefully none at all...

    The NFL is probably only #4 or #5 on the list of sports I prefer to watch. It's just sort of slow in my opinion... Huddles and timeouts and "moving the chains". I honestly cannot remember the last time I watched an entire NFL game, kickoff to final whistle...

    In contrast, a hockey game is mostly always in motion and EITHER team can score at any time... The NHL jumped over the NFL in my book around 10 years ago..

    But it has nothing to do with Kaepernick or Brees or whatever is going on politically..
     
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    NBA fan here, but i 100% agree that hockey is the best of all with regards to pace of play. I struggle with hockey because I cant follow the x&o's like I do in basketball. To me it's just a little black dot flying around. I never played, maybe that's why i struggle with it.
     
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    It's a little black dot, being pursued by many quick talented skaters while being chased by other larger skaters looking to crush them into the boards..

    A little something for everybody. My son and I cheer a nice pass for a goal, but we go nuts over a great hit - assuming clean and no injury, unless it's to a Penguin.....:)
     
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    https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/06/04/d...ource=LI&li_medium=m2m-rcw-sports-illustrated

    Four years after Colin Kaepernick refused to stand during the national anthem as a protest against police brutality and racial injustice, Drew Brees has not learned that his American experience is not everyone's.

    Brees has a right to stand for the flag and think about his grandfathers. This is his country as much as anyone’s, and he can love it as much as he wants and show that love as he chooses. But he had four years to think about Colin Kaepernick’s protest … four years to watch other Black athletes join him and support him … four years to see that Kaepernick asked U.S. Army Green Beret Nate Boyer the most respectful way to protest (kneel, don’t just sit, Boyer told him) … four years to read about the deaths of Philando Castile and Michael Brown and Eric Garner and others at the hands of police … four years to ask his teammates about their own experiences with law enforcement …

    Four years, and Brees apparently learned nothing. That is why he faced minimal backlash four years ago and got excoriated this week. He still claimed they are being “disrespectful” instead of understanding why they feel disrespected.

    If Brees had listened with an open mind for the last four years, he would have seen that his American experience is not everyone’s. He would have realized that making anthem protests about respect for the military is just a scaled-down, philosophical version of using troops to clear out peaceful protesters. It is another way to tell people to shut up and admire the USA.

    You can’t tell a group of historically oppressed people that you understand how they feel, but they have to say it on your terms. That means you don’t really understand. It means you don’t care enough. Why should Black Americans have to pause and salute Drew Brees’s grandfathers before talking about how their own relatives have been treated? Why is his family’s history more important than theirs?

    The flag stands for the American idea, but also of a country that has not always lived up to its own view of itself. We are the country that declared “all men are created equal” but also did not guarantee women the right to vote for another 144 years. We are the country that helped defeat Nazi Germany but also created internment camps of Japanese Americans, a country of Jackie Robinson and Barack Obama that also has a long history of lynchings and Jim Crow laws … and, of course, fundamentally, we are a country built by men who espoused individual freedoms but kept slavery legal in many states. If you don’t see U.S. history as a big, complicated story that can both inspire and appall you, you’re not reading the whole book.
     
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    You mean all of the live video footage by CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC -- leftist loyal media outlets all -- showing that the vast majority of violent protestors are Black, is in reality fake footage done by leftist loyal media outlets in order to frame Blacks for some obscure ideological reason?
     
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    Why should Brees give a rat's ass what James, et al think?
     
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    And if I see players kneeling, I hope you support my right to turn the TV off, which I will do in a second. I’ll avoid the NFL like I would avoid the local grocery store if the cashiers were wearing Antifa t-shirts.
     
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    Lol.

    What I meant is that I watch hockey as a reactive fan, I cant see where the puck is going, how and why the other players move where they do, etc. Its obvious when they replay a goal in slow motion, but at full speed I'm lost. Ps. Bhad season tickets to echl in florida for many years, I enjoy it more live but I'm still always a half second behind. My friend who played hockey for years right up to college sees where the puck is going, not where it's been.

    Anyway, With basketball when a guy has the ball at the top of the key, I can see the other 9 guys, the cuts to the basket, the defensive switches, the missed passes, etc, my eyes and brain are a half second ahead of the action vs half second behind.

    Anyway, we agree on the pace if the play, NFL is always in a huddle it seems. If I have the game on dvr I can watch it in about 30 minutes.
     
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    I see no reason why Brees or anyone else is obligated to understand what is in the minds of people that are doing things you do not approve of. In a few cases it might matter; in most it wouldn't.
     
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    The kneelers and their supporters/excusers are a mix of ignorant, gullible, racist, and anti American people.
     
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    Brees should retire while he's still ahead. There's not going to be much for him or the Saints going forward. I recommend that the Saints give the position to Kaepernick at Brees' contract or better, of course.
     
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    Vacuous words. If you are a democrat, you belong to a political party that should be outlawed, I think. It is rotten.

    Hahaha ... post those passages, please. :cool:
     
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    Yet the LW had no trouble condemning South African apartheid.
     

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