Dust bowl looms if US Southwest drought plans fail

over a year ago.

AZ has had dust storms before.

 

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/slideshow/first-major-haboob-of-2012-swallows-up-the-valley-37367888/

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8OCMNGvTg0

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http://classic.wunderground.com/wxi...01&number=21&thumbstart=1&gallery=CURRWEATHER

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http://www.azfamily.com/younews/164303796.html?img=1&mg=t


HaBOOOOOOOB!

 

Sure, dude! These Haboobies sure are getting in the zone, by now, doncha think?

http://www.azfamily.com/younews/164303796.html?img=1&mg=t

 

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/08/05/2218309/weather-service-warns-of-scattered.html

 

It seems to me just about everybody in the lower 48 got HOT, since this thread was started, 2011:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/co.../climatic_fever_2012_hottest_ev.shtml?refid=0

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THREE BIG DUST STORMS, IN A WEEK? Look at all the baiting, during the 2011 dialogue, at this thread! We got us a dust-bowl, in Arizona. WHO DOESN'T THINK SO?

http://www.thetrumpet.com/article/9...ment/goliath-dust-storms-slam-arizona?preview

 

You have absolute scientific proof that CO2 levels are responsible for the drought? No? Didn't think so.

the problem is you environmentalists take a disparate group of climatic coincidences and use that as proof of CO2 induced climate change without a shred of causal proof.

How many millions of people's prosperity are you willing to sacrifice to please your Earth God and change the weather?

Maybe if we toss a virgin or two into a volcano world CO2 levels will drop, it would certainly be about as effective as carbon taxes and cap and trade schemes.

 

Psst! Go on over to the Mass Extinction Event 6 thread, when you have time, and look up the coral studies, which show how every time CO2 went up not as fast as today, the Earth suffered one of five mass extinction events or the PETM.

We use a little thing, called LOGIC, and we go right to how humans cut trees and fired up whatever will burn, so humans are responsible for a lot more than 3% of the total CO2, since humans have been cutting CO2 respiration, while human actions also caused out-gassing of CH4 and a lot of industrial GHGs, which didn't even exist, until the 20th Century.

You need to notice, the AGW caused the climate change, which includes the drought. CO2 concentrations are a function of human activity, and these force the warming and climate change, even though other forcers join the CO2.

More heat and water goes into the climate system, all the time. More seperator effects develop, so some areas get too much heat, while other areas get too much fresh water, including the oceans, which are getting relatively acidic, which will kill all desirable ocean species, including many, in our short lifetimes.

Heard of Rube Goldberg? Humans are playing with that CO2 and its exchanges, which we shouldn't be doing.

 

One incident could be a statistical anomaly - even 2 or 3 or 10 but over the last few years, world wide we have seen record breaking droughts, floods, heatwaves and cold spells and THAT my friend IS climate change

 

Here's the problem, YOU AREN'T WRONG. Carbon credit scams are exactly like gay bath-house owners playing with the price of admission and coupons, when their miserable, HIV-infested pest-holes need to be closed, immediately.

Carbon credit scams happen because media gadflies have started a distorted global warming DEBATE, which has allowed a ridiculous SKEPTIC position, for people, who want carbon emissions and injury to CO2 respirators to continue, without a proper accounting for what is happening OR where we are all going, which is to hell, via MASS EXTINCTION EVENT 6.

The typical warmist is like Al Gore or James Hansen. He gets part of the picture correct, and then he proposes carbon credits, which are a scam, to play with a problem, which is analagous to the gay bath-house public health problem, which has already been solved, in part, by CLOSING THE BATH-HOUSES, where gay men engaged in unprotected sex, while shooting speed, with shared needles.

The typical denier claims to be a skeptic, but he is riding in, on anti-scientific media, which is like what would happen, if flat-earthers found they needed to continue to pretend Columbus hadn't opened up an issue, by finding a New World, over a horizon, so Magellen needed to get sailing.

Sketicism is not what is happening, re warming, which is going to accelerate, only after a tipping point is passed, such as when the Arctic ice fails, every summer, so the Earth absorbs more energy, as the northern albedo effect fails. Until then, melting ice will cool the planet, and deniers will claim warming events, which indicate climate change is beating all heat sinks are simply local weather. But the warming events shouldn't be happening, during low solar intensity, with rampant melts!

Deniers can't get past guys, like Al Gore and James Hansen, who are book-sellers. A book-seller may be like a straw man, but any students of the coral record can get right past the Al and James straw, MAYBE, but the carbon trading nonsense isn't going away. It has propped up all kinds of politics, against such nonsense, without supporting the reports, of climate change.

Carbon trading is pure politics, proposed by people, who are making money, from debate, which should have moved, from elementary argument, to practical aspects, such as CO2-neutral biomass, which fossil fuel developers and fossil fools are resisting, with help from deflection, by prison and war industries and gangs and cartels, which sell drugs, illegally or quasi-legally. When Gore and Hansen couldn't make it over, to the coral record, to declare M.E.E.6, they let debate degenerate, so they could push their own brand of controversy, while delaying biomass and re-greening, so we can minimize casualties.

But casualties are rising. Die-offs are increasing, in severity and number. Extinctions are 100 x normal, AT LEAST. Gore and Hansen and a whole load of profiteering schmucks need to get over to coral studies, pass them around, and rub President Obamney's nose in them, since he is a carbon trade schmuck, on the NBA kiss-cam.

Mr.Obamney and all kinds of dribblers need to get more serious, about which hoops we have to jump through.

 

This irrational post needs another reply, since I have time for it:

1. CO2 is the most pernicious greenhouse gas, for which concentration is closely related, to average global temperature, in any instrument or proxy records, which exist. When CO2 rises partly as fast as it is rising, today, coral records show the Earth suffers a mass extinction event or the PETM. When CO2 rose fast, the natural cycle toward re-glaciation failed, and temperatures have caused permafrost and Arctic seafloors to melt, which is causing a lot of out-gassing, of more CO2 and a lot of CH4, which is a much more dangerous GHG. Humans interfered with CO2 respiration, while emitting sequestered CO2 and a lot of industrial GHGs, which didn't exist, until the 20th Century. We're going to HELL, or we get CO2-neutral biomass AND we re-green all deserts and polluted areas, dude. Get over it. We are already in Mass Extinction Event 6.

2. Humans set fire to anything flammable and cut forests with chainsaws, to cause other forests, to fail from drought and beetle infestations, causing a CHAIN REACTION. Earth's climate is changing, caused by warming, and tipping points are being passed, during the course of the chain reaction. Your lack of punctuation is a typical flaw, of incoherent RWNJ sentences.

3. The economy is based on an inflationary BUBBLE. What prosperity? The economy is all about profiteering, on scams, by 1% of the population, supported by bureaucrats, who don't do anything of value.

Your money is based on straw, since gold is publically traded. You make your straw into forms, assign positions to your straw creations, and defeat the straw armies, of your crazy, personal world.

Your straw persons are virgins, so throw them where you want. If you REALLY look for real virgins, for any of your dubious fetishes, I know some dedicated professionals, who will be happy to slam you.

CO2 and other GHGs will only clear from the atmosphere, by way of future inventions and from reliance, on cyclic CO2, from hemp, algae, and switchgrass, while we must re-green deserts and polluted areas, by any means, necessary, including smart plants, even if this makes some humans look stupid.

Try deniers and their straw Gores and Hansens, for who would look stupid. Hey! We're in M.E.E.6., "debaters!" Get off the carbon trade nonsense, and get with radical re-greening, or we'll have to make sushi, from jellyfish, and then human habitat will mostly fail. Our die-offs can be much, MUCH WORSE, if the straw men and deniers hog all the media traffic.