Early PF poll

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by gringo, Jan 24, 2024.

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if the election were tommorrow..who has your vote??

  1. Trump

    20 vote(s)
    48.8%
  2. Biden

    21 vote(s)
    51.2%
  1. JohnHamilton

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    I will have to vote Trump by default. Biden is worst president in history. The far left people who pull his strings can do nothing right. Biden himself is a dementia induced moron.

    The current results of this poll are not surprising. Trump's negatives are so high that there is no way he can win the election.

    With this choice you are watching the destruction of The United States and freedom along with it. The kids have been taught that socialism and globalism are cool, and that's how they are going to vote. They will realize their mistake when it's too late.

    Trump as bad, but at least he is for this country. Biden is not. The people who control him hate this country, its history and its culture.
     
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    3rd party unless I can't stomach any of those, in which case I'll write in my dog's name.
     
  3. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ,There are always third options on the ballot, and one of them gets my vote, regardless of who the two parties put up.
     
  4. gringo

    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    I too am somewhat surpised...of 30 votes biden has 60% and trump 40%

    my guess in the real world it will be worse for trump than a 60/40 split

    trump is spending campaign dollars on legal fees ..this public information will hurt trump

    the billionaires club donations will dry up..billionaires have their own legal fees to worry about

    between now and the election trump is gonna need allota cash just to settle lawsuits..

    $83 million aint chickenfeed..I dont care who you are ..

    trump has not mentioned e jean carrol names since losing either..so the amount matters

    and what kind of number will be levied against him in NY?? maybe 3 times if he libel suit

    face it guys...because of the loyalty to trump, we will be stuck with biden for another 4 years

    so, blame the GOP for Biden
     
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    The flaw in your logic is that it's predicated on the idea it's splitting anything. You assume that were the third party not running either Biden or Trump would get my vote. They wouldn't.
     
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    well I do not mind a 3rd party that splits the republican vote

    like I said, depends how you would vote if the 3rd party did not exist, you would not vote, so that answers that
     
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    What gets me is why Trump continues to run. He's losing a fortune in legal fees, and these court cases are free campaign ads for the Democrats.

    Most people are not like me. I think that the legal barrage against Trump is disgusting and over the top. It should not be happening. I don't want him for president, but also don't think that the courts and legal system should disqualify him with trumped up charges.

    If Trump cared about the country, he'd see the handwriting on the wall and end his campaign. But he's very stubborn, which is one of his major faults. He will continue until he loses in November when a less controversial Republican candidate could have won.

    Biden is terrible on every level. He richly deserves to be turned out of office since he doesn't have sense enough to retire.
     
  8. JohnHamilton

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    Of course you don't. You are what I call a blank check Democrat. They pick a candidate and you vote for him or her. My dad was the same way.
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    trump would be facing trumped up charges even if he was not running for office

    this is what prosecutors and the courts do. They they look for easy targets and charge them with crimes. This their job

    Not Ford, Carter, Reagan ,Obama , or either Bush were charged with crimes

    Only Clinton and Trump were to stupid to avoid any criminal or civil charges after leaving office
     
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    There is no doubt that this is board is heavily weighted to the left, including the moderators.
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    if this board is left leaning I say it is because the right has went so crazy no sane person can stay on the right

    hence anybody not drinking the trump kool-aid is labeled a lefty

    the perfect example is Liz Cheney. She has been on the right of every political issue her entire life.

    and because she refused to support a crazy trump she is not only labeled a RINO

    she is labeled a leftist
     
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    No. This board leans left and the moderators do their best to keep it that way. It has nothing to do with the other side. But, like the media does, this site promotes Democrats good, Republicans bad by influencing it's content.
     
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    gringo Well-Known Member Donor

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    A question

    can a person that doesn’t support trump be on the right??

    or are the non trumpers all RINO ‘s

    The membership here may very well lean left. But the majority of those that participate are trumpers or bots
     
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    Liz Cheney is not a leftist; she is a fool. It's perfectly okay to oppose Trump and say that he is headed in the wrong direction. It's another to line up with people who are just as bad as Trump.

    I feel the same way about the Bush family who supported Hillary Clinton. If the world were fair, Hillary would be in as much hot water as Trump.
     
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    It’s not just this board, but the entire country. Conservatives having problem this simple facts not getting it last 20 years that there are more Americans who are centrist/ liberal/ lefty then conservatives.
     
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    I am little concern with Michigan,. Mi has 300k Arab/Muslim American. They most likely will not vote for Biden or Trump. That will give Trump a win in MI.
     
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    Here is the difference between Hamas vs “Monster Israeli Government”.

    “Monster Israeli Government” can be replaced at the ballot box by Israelis. But Hamas , any Palestinian challenge them will be beheaded.
     
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    I have voted republican in the past and even supported Trump early on and the posts are here to prove that, so guess you spoke too soon

    I will never vote for MAGA though.... ever
     
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    when the fundis and Islamist terrorists hide among non-combatants and use shelters to hide missiles, munitions and warriors while forcing civilians to be shields of those safe harbors WTF do you think will happen
     
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    I don’t think conservative who support RFK ever read any of his position.

    Here are some of his position that completely contradict their view


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    it's maga trying to talk dems and independents into voting 3rd party

    they do this to split the dem vote, so Trump wins by default
     
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    yeah he's pretty pink though some libertarians dislike the qualified immunity for LEO's
     
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    I don’t understand why DNC and Biden camp not going hard on RFK? I think this a mistake. Even losing 2% vote to RFK will cost Biden the election.
     
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    I don't think you understand why people vote RFK.

    First, you have the never-Trumpers. They just hate Trump. So, some of them vote RFK since the other Republicans won't be on the Ballot.

    Second, you have the people voting for RFK for the K. Some people will always vote for the K.

    Third, some people really hate the U.S. involvement in Ukraine. RFK has the strongest anti-Ukraine sentiment of all the Presidential candidates.

    People do vote single issue.
     
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