Earth Is Heating Faster Than We Realized

LOL, you have any data that shows we will ever get to 50% CO2? Doubling the current level would be great for plants.

 

Yep, my mistake, yet for two years in a row now the Arctic ice extent has increased and deepened. Wasn't supposed to happen.

Climate system response to stratospheric ozone depletion and recovery

Yep, that robust modeling has always predicted sea ice loss.

Now the problem here is that the southern ozone hole hasn't changed. The recent and convenient 25 year anniversary announcement of reduced Ozone hole was for the northern hemisphere and that was only 4%.

 

Link?

Man, you still haven't addressed my points. Just keep deflecting, nice strategy.

 

but lousy for us.

 

It's also not necessarily good for plants.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-plant-food-advanced.htm

 

Dang, (Un)Skeptical Science again eh? You realize that is a cartoonists CAGW advocacy site don't you?

 

BTW, a paper published in Quaternary Science Reviews shows that climate models falsely predicted Antarctic sea ice would decline more than Arctic sea ice over the 20th century. The current Antarctic sea ice anomaly about 2 million square kilometers above the decline falsely predicted by the mean of five climate models for the year 2000.

 

I'm sorry, are you able to refute any of the published peer reviewed studies referenced on the link I provided?

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Feel free to post your source material.

 

Can you refute that the models predicted warming and less sea ice? Like I said, it is convenient to claim that the unexpected increase in Antarctic sea ice extent is caused by warming after the fact.

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Already linked to one of them and if you are going to ignore them in favor of a cartoonists blog then what's the point?

 

Meanwhile the polar ice cap continues to grow back at an alarming rate to which the climate nuts say........ NOTHING! I wonder why.

I guess when they say, "The science is settled," what they mean is, "No matter what happens, we've already decided what the science is going to say."

 

Modelling past sea ice changes

Past models predicted 2 million square kilometers less than what we see today.

 

Feel free to link the actual models that claim that extant sea ice in the Antarctic would decrease. You posted a journal that said that Antarctic sea ice was predicted to melt due to ozone depletion and and increases in GHGs. It doesn't say when or what these models are, and then says that climate change could offset the effects of GHGs. What are these specific models and what did they say?

Oh how convenient for you. The point is you have to back up your claims, and I would like to read this article. I searched the internet and could not find a link to the actual study.

 

Feel free to link evidence of that.

 

From IPPC AR5

 

Arctic Sea Ice Gone in Summer Within Five Years?
Seth Borenstein in Washington
Associated Press
December 12, 2007

 

Who runs WattsUpWithThat again?

 

Sorry, but who linked to that, you?

 

Those do not appear to be scientific journals based on research. Those appear to be newpapers.

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http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/abs/10.1175/JCLI-D-13-00301.1

The model backs up what the scientist in my first link said. As the ice sheet melts, it adds more freshwater to the surrounding ocean causing the water to become less saline.

 

God put oil in the Earth for us to drill and extract.... and for that reason alone, I think global warming is HORSE (*)(*)(*)(*)

 

You guys always link to that blog. But i'm curious, just who is the credible voice of climate deniers? The other side seems to have NASA and every major scientific organization across the globe on their side. Surely it's all a conspiracy to...do what, again?

 

Obviously they are in it for all the global warming money!

 

Those sweet, sweet academic grants. I don't know about you, but I am sick of seeing all these eggheads cruising around in their Porsches.

 

LOL, where do you think they get this information from eh?

30 April 2007
Models Underestimate Loss of Arctic Sea Ice

 

Agreed. I'm sick of all my professors flaunting their Rolexes and Armani suits!

 

$32.5 billion on climate studies between 1989 and 2009 and even more by now is a lot of green (pun intended). Without climate alarmist they would never have gotten this largess in grants. There is a lot of competition for this money.