Editorials Seethe with Anger over 'Shameful' Gun Control Defeat

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwy...seethe-anger-over-shameful-gun-control-defeat

Keep in mind this is selective editing of a few whiney libs complaining not for gun control, but rather Obummer didnt get his way. Whats amusing is WHERE these editorials are comming from:

Ummm...isnt Chicago a gun free city already? Arnt Citizens already DENIED EVEN LEGALLY OWNING A GUN? Why are they so pissed that a background check didnt pass.. there is no background check in Chicago BECAUSE NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO CARRY A GUN! I guess its no coincodence that Chicaco has a higher murder rate than Afghanistan.

Of course Felons, cartels and mentally ill ALWAYS stricly follow the law when it comes to guns..yep Jared Loughner would have been foiled from commiting murder because he couldnt get a gun from walmart

How many people a day die from stabbings? Car accidents from DUI? from drug overdoses? I believe they ALL are much higher than gun deaths you freakin moron

 

Yep..this is our future under Obama

 

Liberals have been gaining a lot of victories lately.

They should get over this and focus on issues that don't affect Constitutional rights.

Like Individual Mandates.

 

Pampered leftist elites with security as a result of their position or wealth fall into the political world of 'do as I say, not as I do'...

 

Notice that the Chicago Media will not call for the banning of Chicago criminal gangs despite the incredible body count.

They could care less about dead Chicago kids. They only want to control law abiding gun owners.

 

No, this doesn't help your cause. Trying to restrict gun ownership to law abiding gun owners, is NOT an effort to take guns away from law abiding gun owners. The goal (IMO not directly legislatable) was to restrict gun ownership of NON-law abiding citizens.

I feel safer if I'm allowed to own and carry guns. I feel even safer if nutcases and felons are NOT allowed to own and carry guns. I presume you feel the same. Now, how can we get there from here?

 

That's been tried for years and it has failed.

Now, why doesn't the Chicago media want violent criminal gangs banned? Why do they let them continue to murder Chicago's kids?

 

This is insane. No one from the anti crowd wanted or did listen for months up to this vote thinking they had victory in the bag. Its been a melee of back and forth jabs on this forum (with the occasional spattering of good ideas) from both sides.
NOW you want to know how to "get there from here". What, you never asked for directions in Maine? Darn shame you didn't pay attention to the road signs when they were there.

 

Maybe they should just pass a law outlawing criminal gangs. That's MUCH easier, and politically much more sellable, than trying to get at the reasons gangs exist.

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I asked a question. You made no attempt to answer it. Care to try again? HOW can guns be made difficult for criminals to acquire? Is this even remotely possible?

 

You will never get an answer to that out of a gun freak.

 

Good lord, one loss in the war against the 2nd Amendment and you start a new one against the 1st Amendment? You liberals really are out of control...

 

Stiffer penalties. Its really that simple. No more confiscating the weapon and releasing the gangbangers on to the street. That's what happens now in most major cities. Cops bust gangbangers for illegal weapons and the judicial system has them back on the street within a week. Put an end to that type of BS and then we can begin to talk about more permanent solutions. Until then your just harassing law abiding citizens with your bans of everything that looks evil.
As I've said on numerous other posts concerning back ground checks. If the dems had started and ended there it would have sailed through. Instead your side wanted to demonize certain categories of weapons derived from ignorance and fell flat on your face. You guys had the chance and momentum but you couldn't help overreaching to your true leftists desires.
Don't expect me to cry you a river.

Perhaps I owe you an apology for presuming too much. I just saw your post on this thread http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...shows-washington-where-change-goes-die-3.html and its seems your not as leftist crazy as I thought.

 

Perhaps not the answer you seek but perhaps your question is flawed. What's a gun freak btw.

 

Yet more misrepresentation of the NRA by the ignorant..

 

Explain first how nutcases and felons are denied access to guns, AT ALL,hoplophobe.

 

If by ignorant you mean an Australian medical professional who's "time is too precious" to watch a video on a medical procedure but still has plenty of time to troll US gun control posts then yes, you've hit the nail on the head. Or perhaps its just misrepresentation all the way around?

 

Yeah, I saw that proposed legislation as being about as game-changing as making the hole deeper in golf.

I wonder if stiffer penalties would be a deterrent. Liberals seem to think that all society's ills could be cured simply by passing appropriate laws, letting the government just make everything all better. So great, we passed lots of laws and now the US has the highest percentage of its citizens in jail of any nation that has ever existed anywhere. Are our ills all cured now? No? Well, let's stiffen the penalties again. Put EVEN MORE people in jail. THAT will fix all our problems, right?

Well, maybe and maybe not. Imprisonment costs over $80,000 per inmate per year, not counting the cost of building, staffing, and maintaining all those prisons. Recidivism (released prisoners returning to prison) overall is about 80% within the first two years after release. So nobody is being rehabilitated either.

We in the US are doing something very wrong, but I'm not sure what it is.

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Yeah, I saw that proposed legislation as being about as game-changing as making the hole deeper in golf.

I wonder if stiffer penalties would be a deterrent. Liberals seem to think that all society's ills could be cured simply by passing appropriate laws, letting the government just make everything all better. So great, we passed lots of laws and now the US has the highest percentage of its citizens in jail of any nation that has ever existed anywhere. Are our ills all cured now? No? Well, let's stiffen the penalties again. Put EVEN MORE people in jail. THAT will fix all our problems, right?

Well, maybe and maybe not. Imprisonment costs over $80,000 per inmate per year, not counting the cost of building, staffing, and maintaining all those prisons. Recidivism (released prisoners returning to prison) overall is about 80% within the first two years after release. So nobody is being rehabilitated either.

We in the US are doing something very wrong, but I'm not sure what it is.

 

The first thing to do is enforce the laws already on the books. BH Obama has prosecuted way fewer felons trying to buy guns that any other Justice Department.

In Texas felons are no allowed to carry guns or even keep them in their homes. A felon in possession of a fire arm is committing a serious crime.

Congress passed the first blanket prohibition on felons carrying guns in the Gun Control Act of 1968, which made it illegal for felons to possess a gun any under circumstances. The Firearm Owners' Protection Act, passed in 1986, reinforced the ban on felons carrying guns, and also banned people who have been convicted of a crime punishable by more than one year of imprisonment from possessing guns

Congress later expanded federal gun control laws by passing what is commonly known as the Lautenberg Amendment, which prohibits persons who are subject to protective or restraining orders as a result of domestic violence, or who have been convicted of misdemeanor crimes involving domestic violence. Incidentally, these federal laws not only ban felons from possessing guns, but also from possessing any type or amount of ammunition.

In addition to the long-standing federal prohibition on felons possessing guns, there are also many state laws that limit the ability of a felon to legally carry a gun, some of which even predate the federal law. At one extreme, some states prohibit anyone who has been convicted of a felony, and even of certain misdemeanor crimes involving violence, from ever legally carrying a gun. Other states prohibit only those persons who have been convicted of certain violent felonies from carrying a gun.

 

Define "gun freak". Would that be anyone that owns a gun.

 

No, its just people who legally own guns... Why else attempt to create legislation to impede only people who legally own guns?

 

No, stiffer penalties are not the ONLY answer. They are the first step. You cannot ask just one side to lay down in the road while the other runs over them.
We in the US are definitely doing something wrong. I have a good idea what it is but I have zero ideas on how society can change course.
Personally I'm thinking I'm watching the end of Rome.

 

Unless one of our guns paddles across the pond looking for you, you've got nothing to fear down under there.