Elijah Cummings: White House officials using personal accounts to do official work

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  1. bx4

    bx4 Well-Known Member

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    Your sarcasm is ridiculous, but that is in keeping with many of your posts.

    I don't need to alert the media, because the information has been public knowledge for a long time. Here are the documents that Trump's DOJ reviewed, when they looked at the issue of Clinton's email server:

    "The Midyear team also sought and obtained a wide range of other information relevant to the investigation, such as Clinton’s cable, telephone, and Internet subscriber and service information; financial information for certain witnesses; business records pertaining to the services provided by the companies that supported Clinton’s servers; records related to security services protecting Clinton’s servers"

    I was responding to someone who said the servers were unprotected. That was false. They were protected.

    It would be too much to expect you to apologise for your sarcasm.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    it is illegal, kushner should have his clearance suspended immediately.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    i agree completely.
     
  4. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    If what is illegal? What I said in response that is legal? You confuse me.....
     
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    BuckyBadger Well-Known Member

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    So, I guess under equal justice then nobody gets prosecuted and everyone in the GOV't just does whatever they want.

    Unless Cummings is just telling more lies and trying to get revenge against all of those that discovered Hillary had a server in her bathroom and was using it instead of the State email she was required to use. Especially in foreign hostile territory.

    It got hacked too.

    So once she is prosecuted and in jail, we can move on to all the rest who did an equal amount of lawbreaking as Hillary did.

    Cummings is a hypocrite. That is the one thing we know for sure.
     
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    Your text states that Trump's DOJ (run at the time by the see-nothing, hear-nothing, do-nothing, totally-recused Jeff Sessions) "looked at" Clinton's server. They looked at all kinds of stuff, including records 'related to security services protecting Clinton's servers'. Now, that is what I'd call a really thorough, down-to-the-floorboards investigation.... :roll:

    Maybe now that we (hopefully) have a new Attorney General who is willing to step up and do the JOB, we can finally get down to the dirty, gritty truth of this matter.

    Until then, I'll ask you two simple questions, for your own private rumination -- if Hillary's email were totally protected as she claims, why was she in such a rush to delete thousands of them after they were subpoened by Congress? Why did she repeatedly deny that any of her emails had classified information in them, when she HERSELF wrote and sent no less than 104 of them?! Link: http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/07/clinton-104-emails-classified-information/ .

    Me? I'm content to wait for the truth to come out, knowing that, "the wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine...."
     
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    I know it is a nice sounding meme, but you really should retort with factual stuff. Using a personal server for government business is not illegal per se, so quit using that as a straw man. Using a personal server and email account for handling classified information is illegal, and that is Hillary's felony, and what many others have gone to jail for.
     
  8. bx4

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    That is not the conclusion of the FBI. They found NO evidence it had been compromised. None.
     
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    did you forget the topc.
     
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    mdrobster Well-Known Member

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    yes it is illegal. trump supporters think they can just dictate the law.
     
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    and those in the the FBI (and DOJ) that lied and covered up the investigation while supporting her campaign should be investigated and prosecuted. We all know she broke the law and we all know she should be in jail for what she did. It's not that difficult to see. However, the Obama DOJ had a two tier justice system supported by members of the FBI.

    Yes, the server was compromised. How do you think all of these emails get leaked onto the internet? How do you think John Podesta's emails got leaked too? Magic fairy dust? No they were either hacked or compromised from the inside.
     
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    Other people's accounts got hacked. Not hers.

    Essentially, your conclusion that her account got hacked is an article of faith. You want to believe it so badly that you have to come up with some story that explains the FBI's conclusion that there was no evidence of hacking. You can't accept that possibility so you need believe they are corrupt.
     
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    How did they get her emails? :)

    Do you know the difference between an Exchange server and an email account?
     
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    There's a funny thing about emails.

    You might not know this, but they always go from someone to one or more other people. If you hack Podesta's account, you're going to get some emails to / from H Clinton.
     
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    You might not know this, but servers and email accounts can hacked pretty easily without the person/system/server being hacked even knowing about it. :)

    Since the FBI never got access to Hillary's hacked server, how could they do forensic work to determine the extent of the crimes involved?
     
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    You asked how hackers could get access to Hillary's emails without hacking her server. I gave you an explanation. But it is not just my explanation - it is the FBI's conclusion.

    I know you can't accept that possibility. You have convinced yourself that her server MUST have been hacked.

    Unfortunately for you, there is ZERO evidence that it happened, and a logical explanation for how some of her emails (a very few) were stolen and then leaked.
     
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    when you produce those emails and show that there is classified information in them
    then lock them up
    till then you are blowing smoke out your ass
     
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    FBI never had access to the server. Only Crowdstrike did, so you have no clue. Sorry.

    I know the server was hacked because 1) Hillary was simplistic 2) Her email was hacked 3) DNC was hacked 4) massive cover up.

    Hillary could barely use email, much less be sophisticated enough to protect herself form hackers and people inside her own party to not hack/download all of her information for release.

    If you knew anything about AD/DNS you would understand what I mean. But that is OK, you can think her server was perfectly safe and secure.
     
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    Clintons emails were on a laptop used by a known convicted pervert which I'm sure it was used to DL porn so don't even attempt to tell me that laptop wasn't hacked
     
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    Forgive me, @bx4 , but based on everything we have observed since 2015, I wouldn't trust the FBI led by James Comey to adequately 'investigate' or to tell the TRUTH about ANYTHING....

    [​IMG]. "Lisa -- NO! Shut the hell up!" :eekeyes:
     
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    You said "it is illegal." I was asking you what it is.
     
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    You seem to throw out generalities for cover. If you are saying that using a personal server for government business is illegal then you are simply flat out wrong.
     
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    You're right, Rod. The "illegal" part comes in when/if CLASSIFIED INFORMATION is sent, received, or re-sent "in-the-clear" (not protected by the required government security protocols). You know this... I know this... and I'm guessing that, like me, you've held or still hold a government security clearance.

    One thing that came up in another forum that does need to be repeated (for those who STILL don't 'get it' (even though it should immediately be obvious)... and that is even IF an offending computer or communications device is physically located inside a SCIF, the computer/comm. device MUST be activated within the SCIF's protective circuits, software, firewall(s), etc.

    Forgive me... I know this is like having to remind some people (NOT you) that in order to make a light bulb emit light, you have to throw the wall switch to the "on" position, but unfortunately some people really are so DENSE that they must be told this....

    Conversely, with tongue-in-cheek, you can't help but wonder why anyone would deliberately turn a SCIF off, or disconnect one's personal server from it, if, indeed, one was properly installed in that person's mansion in the first place.... :omg:
     
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    FYI, it is in the news article!!!!!

    This is a no brainer, but feel free to go ahead and make excuses!!!!!
     
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    No double standard. If Hillary could do it, the Republicans can do it.
     

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