Elite Democrats Join Neo-Cons in Anti-Withdrawal of Troops

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  1. Steady Pie

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    Through Bush and Obama I was consistently pro-withdrawal. Why would i change now because orange man said its a good idea?
     
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    Sort of fits with their MO doesn't it ModCon...
    - to use the fruits of others' labors to magnanimously give in the form of entitlements to others
    - to use & keep the most vulnerable in a subsistence level of entitlement dependency, as a voting block (notably since LBJ 60's)
    - to use the fomentation of race and class angst in the furtherance of their 'Narrative'
    - to use largely conservative, nationalistic & patriotic young men as fodder in the high stakes $ game - that is the Military Industrial Complex. (not to say that there haven't been any RINOs or Repubs to join the list). Perhaps it's just me, but I see a pattern...
     
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    The military industrial complex is a powerful force. I’ve been doing further study on the Syrian Civil War —my God what a mess. My instinct is to get out, use our influence on NATO to establish civility between the Turks and Kurds. Assad sucks, but I’m seriously not interested in constructing coups in the Middle East.

    It certainly is more complicated than what alot of people are saying. But if Trump decides to use some private mercenary group like Blackwater he deserves to be spiritually executed by firing squad, along with the other war criminals.
     
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    Yeah, it was started by a dumb republican, then continued by a dumb Democrat that wasn’t smart enough to learn from the dumb republican.
     
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    Hundreds of thousands dead for nothing.

    Bush is your man
     
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    Yeah, Bush is responsible for that. So is Obama. They're on the same side if you haven't noticed.

    But they're both puppets. Real question is who's pulling the strings and how to remove them from power.
     
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    No bush started this whole mess
     
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    And, Obama didn’t end it.
     
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    He did in iraq

    I dont blame the fireman.....I blame the arsonist
     
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    So, a fireman spreads flames, instead of extinguishing the fire. Crazy concept.
     
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    Ever see them fight a brush fire?
     
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    Touché
     
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    As I said. Obama gets full responsibility for Libya, and some responsibility for Syria. But he got us out of Iraq. We will be in Afghanistan for the next 50 years thanks to bush
     
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  14. catalinacat

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    Billy Krystal is a joke, who is establishment all the way; look at that permanent smirk he always has on his silly face.
     
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    I didn’t vote for Obama, but after eight years of Bush I was exhausted. I was hoping he’d right some wrongs. He had two years of control of Congress. He could have busted up the big banks. The country was a pretty pissed off mood, and had no pity for bankers. Instead not one of those vultures went to jail, not even a slap on the wrist. He could have pulled out of Afghanistan as well. As for pulling out of Iraq, those dates were set before he even got in office. Allot of republicans gave him ****, but the Iraqis wanted a unbalanced SOFA agreement. As for his foreign policy, he was Bush Lite. He did hammer out a deal with the Iranians, and opened up diplomatic ties with Cuba, which I applauded.
    I’m not completely partisan, I’ll give credit where credit is do.
     
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    The US had nothing to do with the Arab spring,. Libya or Syria... Both were bound to erupt.. it was always a matter of when.
     
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    Then you don't know anything about Libya or gadaffi.
     
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    killing all those syrians libyans and yemenies got your vote for obama.

    Trump wants to end the wars, and your crying bush....

    get real
     
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    You understand trump is killing people today?
     
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    Hes ending wars, not starting them.

    why do democrats resist ending wars?

    please enlighten me
     
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    But he is killing people as we speak.....right?
     
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    Nope, hes negotiating the termination of state murder sanctioned by obama hillary and bush, while simultaneously setting up meeting with North Korea to prevent any new hostilities.
     
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    Obama did not send war planes to Libya? Really?
     
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    US troops are killing people today.

    Now you are just making things up
     
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    Thank God, we have a president who is willing to stop the wars started by bush and democrats.
     
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