Ellen Page: Yet another attention-seeking celebrity MAKES THE CHOICE to come out

lmao...well gee, why'd you choose to be gay leek when you could have chosen to be straight and avoid rejection, bigotry and other social hardships in your life?

Man I'll never get how people can think this is a choice. Oh right, let's default to, "They're just doing it for attention!"

 

As i find your opinion to be full of lies; I guess that's called a stalemate when all both sides have are beliefs

 

Not really sure, especially during the Reagan 80s when it would cost you your job if anyone knew. That was not a fun time to be gay, let me tell you.

 

can we please not go there. A female could get graphic as to why she enjoys receiving penis but i would not want to read that any more than why a male likes to receive it

 

Actually, lately, only one side has the court decisions....and the polls...on its side.

 

we're not beating the dead horse of marriage in this thread.

 

This is not my belief it is yours. If you believe that we choose then you believe that we can go either way. That is bisexuality.

Again this is not my belief it is yours. You are the one claiming that we can choose. And you are correct there is no medical evidence to support this belief of yours.

You believe that we can choose, that means we have the ability to go either way, and that is by definition bisexual. We can't possibly choose if we are not predisposed to being gay or straight and if we are predisposed to being gay or straight that by default makes us bisexual as we can go either way. Again this is your belief not mine.

I believe we are what we are and do not choose. This is my belief, choice is your belief and choice implies a predisposition to men or women and that is bisexuality..

And I do not condemn you for your belief... however I don't think you understand the implications of your belief.

By believing that we choose you must believe that men have the ability to have sex with men or have sex with women and this is by definition bisexuality. By believing that women can choose you believe that women have the ability to have sex with either women or men and again this is what the term bisexual means. So in your statement you are telling me that at some time you gave up your inclination to have sex with your same sex and chose to only have sex with your opposite sex, in essence you quit being bisexual and chose to be heterosexual. The "choice" demands that we can be either or, otherwise we would not be able to choose we would just be what we are by default and have no choice.

I'm not intolerant I agree with you... if you want to have sex with a goat as long as the goat doesn't care why should I, have at it. But if you do have sex with a goat it will be because you are predisposed to it, not because you suddenly woke up one day and said to yourself " I think today I choose to have sex with goats", It will be because you always had the inclination to do so.

I'm pretty sure that it is you with the "bigoted perspective" here, bigoted in the sense that your belief gives you a reason to claim that others who have not "chosen" as you have, have made a bad "choice".

We can't choose if we're not predisposed to either sex. And being predisposed to having sex with either sex is by definition bisexual. I accept your belief and understand it completely. It is you who does not understand the implications of your belief. I am simply pointing it out to you.

 

nope

I could care if you chose to sleep with men or women. That is strictly your business. I also don't think it makes you any different than me. The only thing we do differently is have sex. I don't see why some folks feel the need to announce at press conferences or during interviews that they chose the homosexual lifestyle; frankly, who cares.

I could care less about Wilt Chamberlain and all of his claimed conquests. If he had press conferences about it then I would have been against those as well

 

Are you trying to say that sexual orientation doesn't exist outside of actual sexual acts, and that you have no particular bias in favor of either sex? How would two lovers of the same sex adopt a "heterosexual lifestyle", whatever that is?

 

You know, its really not about having a penis in your ass. Im gay but i hate the thought of anal sex and i will never do it. Im not gay because i like anal sex. That isn't what makes you gay.

Also, if being gay WAS a choice, tell me, if you can, why would ANYONE chose it if it was a choice? Why would you chose to be potentially bullied, discriminated against, attacked or even killed in some countries? Why would you chose the social stigma and all that lot? TELL ME WHY?

No? because its not a choice, if it was, no one would bloody well chose it.

 

Is it graphic when you talk about how you spent the day with your wife and enjoyed her company? Or do you only ever go into sexual details when discussing your romantic partnership?

I mean honestly, there is more to sexual orientation and why we enjoy spending time with our siginificant others than just sex...well maybe it's just sex for you, but I know it's not for me and for many others.

My fiance and I always try to find a way to meaningfully spend time together and have 'date nights' where we watch movies, crack jokes, have friends over, play games together and so on and so forth.

Who you love and spend your time with is important to most people. We don't all want to be alone forever and most people want to find that person they love, whether they have sex with them or not. Seriously, ever heard of asexuals? These are people who are totally disgusted by the idea and the act of sex, but many of them find romantic partnerships together.

 

I'm still waiting for sec to tell his wife the only reason he married her is for sex. Then I'm waiting for him to divorce her so he can get the government out of his marriage. I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time.

 

And now it's obvious that you haven't read a thing I posted. At least I gave you the common courtesy of actually reading what you posted. If you just want to rant and not discuss or debate why don't you try Facebook.

 

Celebrities make announcements about themselves all the time- weddings, engagements etc. No one has a cow about those.

This announcement is more in the vein of those celebrities who have disclosed things about themselves with a purpose- Tom Hanks and his diabetes, Magic Johnson and his HIV status, Angelina Jolie and her masectomy.

I get it if you object to celebrities using their life stories to promote understanding about a cause or a condition- if its because you object because you think celebrities are not endowed with special incite or wisdom.

But if you only object when its when a celebrity announces that he or she is gay.....well then its pretty obvious what it is you are objecting to.

 

Only someone who is looking for a reason to berate others would suggest something as silly as ...sexuality is a choice.

 

feel free to provide to me details about the medical test which proves your theory/belief as being correct.....................whoops

 

When you chose to be straight or gay that is the proof of your position. If you didn't choose that is the proof of mine.

 

Being a lesbian apparently. It's a great way to drum up publicity if you're not important in pop culture. Just look at Jason Collins. He's a lesbian too I guess. I didn't word that very well, did I?

 

No, but that's ok.... I'm sitting here trying to figure out who Jason Collins is and how "he" managed to be a lesbian. Doesn't ring a bell. Is this something new?... I'll look him up later.....

When it comes to a lot of the run of the mill celebrities, sometimes I have no clue b/c I just don't pay much attention to them....

 

Of course they don't want to admit this.

Why? Because they try to reduce homosexual relationships to purely sexual so that they can more easily dismiss them. It's much harder to admit the people you are degrading are human beings with meaningful and deep relationships. It's another way they attempt to dehumanize the situation to clear their conscience of their bigotry.

 

huh? You and other homosexuals in this subforum want to portray heterosexuals who don't agree with you as being evil

I continue to see attacks from the heterophobes because

A: we don't see a lick of difference between a heterosexual and a homosexual other than with whom they share their bed
B: We do not support creating little pockets of protected groups; that's a big govt loving vs big govt hating thing.
C: Without any foolproof medical test to prove that one is in fact living the homosexual lifestyle, why should lawsuits etc be allowed with claims that X or Y did not occur because the accuser is gay. I can't report to the police that the SRT Viper I saw is mine and was stolen without proof that I ever owned it.

Your group really needs to get over yourselves and get out there and compete against everyone else. The incessant whining grows tiresome.

 

Then why try to deny them the same access to marriage?

 

SEC looks at the thread topic

I have something for you

 

What a wonderfully unconsciously ironic statement.