Emotional Abuse Laws

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  1. modernpaladin

    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/02/health/ireland-coercive-control-domestic-abuse-intl/index.html

    Emotional/psychological abuse, imo, is even worse than physical abuse, insofar as its lasting effects are concerned. Bruises and broken bones typically heal faster than emotional and psychological trauma.

    But can this be enforced objectively? Threats of violence are clear (and already illegal), but how can 'controlling behavior' be objectively identified in a legal environment?

    Additionally, do you think this law will be equally applied to men as women? Men are probably more likely to abuse physically than women, however I doubt women are any less likely to abuse emotionally than men.
     
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    Emotional abuse is very relative with no standards of measurements....really more based on the word of a woman who may feel "controlled" or emotionally abused by her perception from a bad match. This is a law designed to empower women using legal tools againt men, with no clear cut standards to go by. Bad law.
    I've been with my husband for 30 years, happily married and his exwife will still talk about how controlling and abusive he was.

    I think women are better empowered by remaining independent until they know the good bad and ugly sides held by their love interest.
     
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    Perhaps what his ex-wife considered controlling and abusive maybe something that you have accepted and is your normal.
    History has shown us that women are not believed and do not use feeling controlled or emotionally abused as a legal tool. They don’t have to anymore because women can seek divorce and childcare .
     
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    Ok, and this is exactly the reason laws like this are dangerous.
    You have just taken the side of my husbands ex wife and accused me of having problems. Because my narrative doesn't fit yours. Very dangerous law.

    And history shows that many woman will use any and all legal tools to come out ahead in a divorce. An angry woman is totally capable of using any legal resources against their spouse. I would recommend you not worship women and put them on a pedestal. They are fallible human beings same as men.
     
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    No I am not taking the ex wife’s side because I don’t know her. And I don’t know you so you might have problems, I don’t know. But after working with battered women for many years I do not deny other views.
    It always saddens me when a woman speaks the way you do. I do not worship women but I do not look down on them. You are speaking like a true extremist. No gray. My concern is with battered women and if that is worshipping them so be it. You learn about a person by the side of the argument she defends. You attack women viciously because they use any “legal resources against their spouse” but like to ignore how men do not pay for their child support and lie about their income so they don’t have to help them there former wives. You may think I am worshiping women but I think you have a self loathing attitude toward them
    I don’t want women on pedestals, I want them in medical schools, in government, mothering, ceos, etc....I guess when you saw women denied equal rights..that was putting them in a pedestal.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There are some very very extreme examples of emotional abuse, in which I believe the spouse should be prosecuted,
    but in general I think this criminalizing emotional abuse crap is a bunch of BS.
     
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    Excellent point.
     
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    Interesting thread.

    Men and women engage in and use "confrontational behavior" equally to achieve end goals.
     

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