EU Skepticism

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

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    I'm 'whatever' about the EU.

    If the EU breaks up, Freedom for Europe, but if the EU breaks up, the UK can't trade with it.
     
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    This guy...


    Circa 26th January 2017

    I support this guy speaking for America if America want him to.
     
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    I could say EU will stay in business I could say EU want to break up but is crises if not France leave the ship. I wanted only one big Power how is Germany with big Euro pocket.
     
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    One more Communism nation with leader Macron isn't good thing yet.
     
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    Business people don't hurt themselves just to save politician's face. Trade with Europe will continue. Sure there will be tariffs and political pressure applied in order to punish Britain. I have no doubt about that. But who wants to be threatened into a political union by means of extortion? It's just insulting, we'll figure it out and I'd love to see the stuffed shirt bureaucrats out of a job.

    I'm 31, so I still talk to a lot of young people. And conspiracy theory is more prevalent among the youth I'd say. So is support for the EU, people my age and under are all for it. So on one hand they're all wary of the New World Order, and this idea that a shadowy group directs decisions through the puppet politicians we see on our screens. On the other hand they're screaming in favour of the EU.

    For me, if you're afraid of one world government, then you should also be wary of political agendas which seek to concentrate power. The first thing a world dictatorship would need is a minimal amount autonomy for individual areas.

    I'm glad Brexit happened. It was a bad day at the office for some awful people, I'm convinced of it.
     
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    Minister May will new poll about brexit and EU and if British Citizen vote yes to not leave UK will cool stuff.

    It's about EU existens if UK leave. Without UK I Think EU will suffer even the plans are Germany alone big Power.
     
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    I could say D-Marks in Germany will happen in '21 it's fine to be pride of Europe if UK leave. Not the EU left.
     
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    In UK new poll yes votes if EU will exist.
     
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    Germany in alone situation of big Powers was only my first plan of view.
     
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    Or it will be a Dream EU with 10 or 15 nation some roman catholics want with EU but only if UK, France, Finland, Greece and Netherlands leave the building. At least thus five nations. Finland has big armed forces. Not strong in Dream EU.

    Maybe Germany will grow to 179.000 armed forces some Before down step to today fit 105.000. Italy will down step to old plan of view 160.000 how is a Dream EU with armed forces.
     
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    Italy, Germany, Poland, Croatia, Denmark, Belgium, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithania, Slovakia, Hungary, Austria and Sweden in my Dream EU. 15 pieces in total sum. Portugal and Spain must leave. Five countries I called with big armies must leave. Czech Republic must leave. Bulgaria and Romania must leave.

    Who is the rest ?
     
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    Biggest armies in my Dream EU:

    Germany - 179.000
    Italy - 160.000
    Poland - ????
    Sweden - 65.000 (just 40.000 homeguard soldiers)

    The rest are smaller sums.
     
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    France has Nukes, if France lave the EU, will the EU still have nuclear weapons?

    Wait, hold up, I'm saying that totally wrong..
    The EU hasn't got any armed forces to have anything nuclear and France's nuclear weapons are France's, not the EU's.
     
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    But the EU has armed forces like old wars but this time the Air Force among other thing in warrior.
     
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    Well, it's not 1938 anymore. If German borders aren't big enough for Germany, then do we need a Germany?
     
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    I do not say Nazi Germany. I say 70 y,a, WW2 Germany. Of course, we needs Germany in my Dream EU.
     
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    If you mean to take away nationalities and flags in place of a shared EU one, then, why?
    Why is this good?
     
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    I still don't think the world needs Germany anymore.

    German borders aren't enough for Germany... **** em.

    If they need to federalise Europe in order for Germany to succeed, maybe the world doesn't need a Germany?
     
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    I'll let you into a little secret, we don't do much trade with the EU any more than we do much trade with the UN.
    It's a diplomatic institution. Not a country or a person or even a company that sells anything.

    Trade will continue.
    What a bunch of no hope, second rate politicians in a palace somewhere unimportant have to say about it, really is quite irrelevant.

    Deals will be made direct. We have no need of an ambassador to the "EU",
    No need to ever communicate with them again.

    There is no service that they offer that is not available to us elsewhere.
     
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    EU skepticism seems to be treated with contempt on Euronews.
    Talk about lack of free media.

    Everytime Euronews praise the EU, I hate the EU.
    It's like a propaganda that's only telling the sponsor's point of view.
     
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